A different kind of oil question (moved)

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A different kind of oil question (moved)

Post by Beastmaster » Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:34 am

Okay, I know most of you saw the thread title and thought "Oh no, another oil thread!" Well, my question is simple and hopefully won't ignite any arguments. :decision:

Shopping for oil the other day I saw some marked specifically for V-twin engines. Okay, I know that's not the type of engines we have but does it really make a difference? :blink:
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Re: A different kind of oil question

Post by isldtime » Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:46 am

I've used that oil for years in the engine and trans and happy with the results.
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Re: A different kind of oil question

Post by Emoore » Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:04 am

Ural and MOTUL oil have teamed up.

https://www.motul.com/us/en-US/news/gro ... -with-ural

Not sure if this is new news or if it means anything to us...but here it is.
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Re: A different kind of oil question

Post by Emoore » Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:08 am

This is there recommend oil as per my search for my 2012 Ural T

https://www.motul.com/us/en-US/lubrican ... 06-2013%29
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Re: A different kind of oil question

Post by Mothra35 » Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:28 am

The V-twin mobile oil has additives that are designed to help with the wet-clutch/trans system. Specifically designed for Air cooled engines.

This is what Mobil 1 basically is saying
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Re: A different kind of oil question

Post by Manscout » Tue Jun 12, 2018 11:12 am

Yep. And even Ural says that any V-Twin branded oil will work just fine with Urals.
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Re: A different kind of oil question

Post by hotflash44 » Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:21 pm

Beastmaster wrote:Okay, I know most of you saw the thread title and thought "Oh no, another oil thread!" Well, my question is simple and hopefully won't ignite any arguments. :decision:

Shopping for oil the other day I saw some marked specifically for V-twin engines. Okay, I know that's not the type of engines we have but does it really make a difference? :blink:
now see that didn't hurt, its all about how you approach the oil thread question,good job! :boogie: :cheers:
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Re: A different kind of oil question

Post by Beastmaster » Tue Jun 12, 2018 1:13 pm

hotflash44 wrote:
Beastmaster wrote:Okay, I know most of you saw the thread title and thought "Oh no, another oil thread!" Well, my question is simple and hopefully won't ignite any arguments. :decision:

Shopping for oil the other day I saw some marked specifically for V-twin engines. Okay, I know that's not the type of engines we have but does it really make a difference? :blink:
now see that didn't hurt, its all about how you approach the oil thread question,good job! :boogie: :cheers:
Lol thanks, it looks like I'll pick up some for my next oil change.

I appreciate all of the feedback. I'm rather mechanically inclined and know my way around many types of engines. As I had mentioned in other threads, I've been off of motorcycles for many years and there have been lots of technological improvements. This forum has been an invaluable resource and I (once again) send my thanks to the knowledgeable members. :bow:
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Re: A different kind of oil question

Post by windmill » Tue Jun 12, 2018 3:54 pm

One could argue the about oil till the end of time, but most lubricants are engineered for a specific application, pick what best matches the intended use for the best results.
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Re: A different kind of oil question

Post by Beastmaster » Tue Jun 12, 2018 5:23 pm

windmill wrote:One could argue the about oil till the end of time, but most lubricants are engineered for a specific application, pick what best matches the intended use for the best results.
Thank you, that's exactly why I started this thread, I know there's oil and there's oil. One person swears by one brand or maintenance schedule and someone else presents an argument showing why he believes something totally different.

I was surprised to see an oil labeled for a specific design of engine. I kind of figured that for the average use it would make little or no difference but wanted to ask the experienced folks.
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Re: A different kind of oil question

Post by RC20 » Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:56 am

I think its a ever evolving thing to deal with. Cares years back did not have tight clearances , cycles did not and both were happy with common oils.

Now cars are very tight tolerances and challenges (though cleaner due to better combustion).

Air cooled engines still have the issue of clearances and tightening as they get hotter and they are not as uniform. Oils for those applications start to diverge.

I ran diesel engine type oil for some time in my 80s motorcycles. Very good oil, close to synthetic clean wise and lots of crud handling (looser tolerance letter blow by until heated up) and in hot weather, very close to synthetic in not breaking down. They are highly refined and while not synthetic, highest quality and clean. Dello 400 Chevron, Shell Rotello, Mobile (forget what one) - all the known mfgs have good diesel oils.

However, I both fired up the machines in winter and at times rode them if I had dry enough roads. I had trips that got cold and crank with a conventional oil was an issue (not happy) - I switched to synthetic and for my use it worked much better.

Given a moderate climate I would have no issue with the diesel engine oils.

Going where I plan to and the varying degrees of cold, synthetic is the better choice and its a good choice regardless in the air cooled types.
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Re: A different kind of oil question

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Re: A different kind of oil question

Post by Beastmaster » Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:40 am

Good read, thanks for sharing. :thumbsup:

It explains the differences quite well,

•V-Twin Motorcycle
•Metric Motorcycle
•ATV/UTV
•Dirt Bike

I'm guessing that of the models they listed, we're closest to the V-twin
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Re: A different kind of oil question

Post by chaos2 » Fri Jun 15, 2018 12:10 pm

I really like the Mobil 20-50 in the transmission, cheaper than other premium oils. I just use Castrol 20 50 in the engine never had any oil related issues.
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Re: A different kind of oil question

Post by Wildhorse Cafe » Fri Jun 15, 2018 12:16 pm

I use it and am happy with it, and feel comfortable enough to stretch my oil changes to 5Km with a filter change at 2.5km.
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