What if I do two break-in oil changes?

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What if I do two break-in oil changes?

Post by wecoyote » Wed May 18, 2016 8:16 am

My new 2016 Gear Up is approaching the first 500kms of break in. Since oil and filters are cheap insurance, I am considering doing an oil, filter and lube change at 500km and then again at the recommended 1000km.

In my distorted view of the world, this would allow the "big swarf" to be taken out of the system earlier than what it normally would. Plus, I would get an indication of funky failures earlier than later. I would still wait for 1000km in order to check the valve clearance and anything else that is scheduled.

What is your opinion?
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Re: What if I do two break-in oil changes?

Post by Subsnowden » Wed May 18, 2016 8:35 am

:?

Change the oil every 100 km if you like. I did it at 500 then at 1000 because I was provided the wrong manual. You really don't need to but if it gets you hard then sure. You obviously aren't going to hurt anything by doing it.
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Re: What if I do two break-in oil changes?

Post by hillbillybob » Wed May 18, 2016 9:57 am

As stated above, it won't hurt anything to do it. I probably would have done it as soon as I took delivery...not knowing what the factory puts in, and being the fussy bastard I am. Certainly agree with you about the cheap insurance....so go for it.
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Re: What if I do two break-in oil changes?

Post by Brian Crean » Wed May 18, 2016 10:08 am

If it will give you that "warm fuzzy feeling" then just do it!

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Re: What if I do two break-in oil changes?

Post by stagewex » Wed May 18, 2016 10:19 am

More often won't hurt it even if it is ridiculously unnecessary. Not doing it at recommended intervals especially when new is bad.
You'll have swarf for quite awhile as the engine, gearbox and FD continue to machine themselves. It's the "chunks" that'll get ya.

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Re: What if I do two break-in oil changes?

Post by Mothra35 » Wed May 18, 2016 10:23 am

I know a guy "Harley Guy" that changes his oil every time after he rides...old guy, lot of time, kinda gives him something to do I guess.
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Re: What if I do two break-in oil changes?

Post by wecoyote » Wed May 18, 2016 9:02 pm

Brian Crean wrote:If it will give you that "warm fuzzy feeling" then just do it!
mmmmmm fuzzy feeling! :kumbaya:
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Re: What if I do two break-in oil changes?

Post by 4Paws » Thu May 19, 2016 8:56 pm

Synthetic or Dino oil?
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Re: What if I do two break-in oil changes?

Post by Mothra35 » Fri May 20, 2016 10:59 am

4Paws wrote:Synthetic or Dino oil?
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Re: What if I do two break-in oil changes?

Post by rivers » Fri May 20, 2016 4:25 pm

Mothra35 wrote:
4Paws wrote:Synthetic or Dino oil?
:lol:
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Heck as often as you plan on changing oil. Alternate between changes. No matter what side you're on, ya can't lose. :)
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Re: What if I do two break-in oil changes?

Post by wecoyote » Fri May 20, 2016 10:29 pm

Mothra35 wrote:
4Paws wrote:Synthetic or Dino oil?
:lol:
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Bought a gallon jug of Castrol GTX 20W50. Enough for my first change and some left over for the gear box!
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Re: What if I do two break-in oil changes?

Post by 54vintage » Sat May 21, 2016 12:04 am

When I bought my GU from Raceway I was told to change out the oil after about 75 miles.....they filled it with a couple of quarts of break in oil which I was told shouldn't stay too long in the bike. I'm no oil wiz so I took them at their word. They did the 500 mile service and after that I've done the rest. Just about to hit the 10,000 mile (not klick) mark and the beast is doing fine. You can never change your oil too soon......but you can change it too late :wink:
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Re: What if I do two break-in oil changes?

Post by wecoyote » Sun May 22, 2016 11:10 pm

Thought I posted it on the Facebook group, I ended up doing the "first" oil change at 555km. It is a good thing I did. I found that one of the head nuts was loose on the LH cylinder and the valve clearance was more like 0.007 instead of 0.004.

I will do another at 1000km like the manual says just to keep up with everything.

Oh, and the "gallon" jug of oil was 5 quarts. 5 quart jug was far cheaper than 4 quarts. Now I have about two quarts left for my next endeavor. I might even switch to synthetic. You know, since I took off my tinfoil hat!
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Re: What if I do two break-in oil changes?

Post by BigJames » Thu May 26, 2016 7:47 pm

My Retro has 80K and counting on her. Ural NE changed the oil after 300KM 'cause I was taking her to Georgia. 200 KM later I changed the oil again, then at 1000KM and again at 1500KM and have changed the oil every 2500K (km) ever since. Started with dino oil, then went to syn after 10K (post Sergie). Didn't like how the engine sounded on the syn stuff but loved the shifting, so use dino in the engine and syn in the tranny and FD. Final drive had to be rebuilt (by Gene) at 30K, no issues since (and I lube my splines with anti-seize, because that is what the BMW folks did back in the day and antique Beemer guys I know still do). Engine had issues at 10K, ended up getting shipped to IMWA - yes, Sergie laid hands upon her - and have continued with the dino every 2500KM...works for me...bike will be at the RFK in Atlanta in a few weeks, she runs mighty strong still.
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Re: What if I do two break-in oil changes?

Post by Msblu79 » Fri May 27, 2016 11:15 am

Urals need oil designed for air-cooled ball-bearing engines, Oils rated SH or LOWER for motorcycles use only are fine, try not to use modern automotive oils with ratings higher than SH as they DO NOT provide adequate protection anymore for air-cooled engines. Oils with SG or higher ratings have little to no anti-wear additives as these will kill modern catalytic converters and have been replaced with additives that won't tolerate the higher temps that air-cooled engines run at.
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