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Re: Transmission not disengaging

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2019 9:00 am
by gobium
Tomcatfixer wrote:
Thu Jul 04, 2019 8:42 am
VWK75S wrote:
Thu Jul 04, 2019 6:46 am
Tomcatfixer wrote:
Thu Jul 04, 2019 6:39 am
VWK75S wrote:
Thu Jul 04, 2019 6:35 am
Waffl6 wrote:
Thu Jul 04, 2019 12:44 am
..can't say I'm pleased with myself.
Just be thankful you don't have a flywheel with 8x1mm thread. :feelsgood:
John
2011's DO have M8x1.0 threads, John.
Are you sure :? I thought they changed to 8x1.25.
John
They did. In 2013.
Nope...lol

Re: Transmission not disengaging

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2019 9:16 am
by Tomcatfixer
2012, then.

Re: Transmission not disengaging

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2019 9:22 am
by gobium
Tomcatfixer wrote:
Thu Jul 04, 2019 9:16 am
2012, then.
Yup

Re: Transmission not disengaging

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2019 11:24 am
by Tomcatfixer
I was close. Either way, I knew Waffl6 needed fine threaded bolts, so I sent him some. :D

Re: Transmission not disengaging

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2019 12:18 pm
by cookiemech
That was nice of you!

Re: Transmission not disengaging

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2019 12:50 pm
by Tomcatfixer
cookiemech wrote:
Thu Jul 04, 2019 12:18 pm
That was nice of you!
Hey, I'm a helluva nice guy. Just ask me; I'll tell you. :lol:

Re: Transmission not disengaging

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 1:00 pm
by Waffl6
For those keeping track of the progress (and lack thereof) of my clutch, the issue has been discovered.


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I took it to the auto skills center at Fort Meade and had someone there use a hand impact screwdriver, hammer and center punch to remove 5 out of 6 screws within 30 minutes.


Unfortunately I had ruined the last screw in my attempt to use left hand drill bits to extract and so it was drilled out.

The hole is no longer round, and it's bigger than it was. It has been recommended to take it to a machine shop to be filled, re-tapped and helicoiled. I have my concerns about this because the hole is straight-through and I have seen things online about helicoils backing out through the other side.

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Re: Transmission not disengaging

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 4:26 pm
by WEGUNTER
How old are those disks????? How many km's on them. I would box those things up and send to IMZ. Retapping that screw hole should not be too much of a problem. Wondering if instead of a helicoil you could just retap it and use a slightly larger bolt. Not sure.

Re: Transmission not disengaging

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 4:34 pm
by Waffl6
WEGUNTER wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 4:26 pm
How old are those disks????? How many km's on them. I would box those things up and send to IMZ. Retapping that screw hole should not be too much of a problem. Wondering if instead of a helicoil you could just retap it and use a slightly larger bolt. Not sure.
There are 58xx KM's on this bike. It's a 2011.

Re: Transmission not disengaging

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 4:41 pm
by Mr Wazzock
Waffl6 wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 1:00 pm
For those keeping track of the progress (and lack thereof) of my clutch, the issue has been discovered.
A-HA! :D

That totally explains the symptoms. Presumably the broken bits got into and used up all the space between the plates and that's why the cable and lever went slack.

Re: Transmission not disengaging

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:06 pm
by tparr
Waffl6 wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 1:00 pm
For those keeping track of the progress (and lack thereof) of my clutch, the issue has been discovered.


Waffl6,

you are doing a great job wrenching on this bike! Hopefully, when you get it buttoned back up, you will get some trouble free miles behind you. good luck.

Tim

Re: Transmission not disengaging

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:18 pm
by Waffl6
tparr wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:06 pm

Waffl6,

you are doing a great job wrenching on this bike! Hopefully, when you get it buttoned back up, you will get some trouble free miles behind you. good luck.

Tim
Sure doesn't feel like it, my friend. Just problem after problem since I've had this bike. I was hoping to make it to the BURP rally this coming weekend but I think I'm going to officially cancel that thought because I have been super overwhelmed lately by this, and there's no way I can put it all back together in a single day or two.

So rather than going to the rally I think I'm going to spend my time doing some upgrades. I want to put on that LED headlight kit and hella lamp everyone is raving about, going to be adding an additional horn, MAYBE a tank shifter (cost dependent on whether or not heli-coiling the flywheel works or if I end up needing to replace it) and I still have ammo cans to mount somewhere too.

Re: Transmission not disengaging

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:22 pm
by gobium
gobium wrote:
Thu Jul 04, 2019 7:56 am
You ural is low mies.
They clutch materials are broke apart and jammed up the clutch pack.
Take picture when it is apart.
:wink: common issue on parked ural with low km

Re: Transmission not disengaging

Posted: Sun Jul 07, 2019 8:42 pm
by Waffl6
gobium wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 6:22 pm
gobium wrote:
Thu Jul 04, 2019 7:56 am
You ural is low mies.
They clutch materials are broke apart and jammed up the clutch pack.
Take picture when it is apart.
:wink: common issue on parked ural with low km
You called it, Van. But why does it happen?

Re: Transmission not disengaging

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 2:59 pm
by Manscout
Waffl6 wrote:
Sun Jul 07, 2019 8:42 pm
You called it, Van. But why does it happen?
It happened to my 2011. It was parked a while. 3yr old, but only 1500km on it. I rode the crap out of it, and it happened within 3000kms. My best guess is that like anything mechanical, they actually keep working better when you use it. Letting things sit or not using an engine enough always seems to cause trouble.
However, in my case, I was trying to force a severely loaded bike up too steep of a hill and smoked the clutch for three straight days. I made it home, barely. So extreme heating and then cold mountain air combined with the little use is the cause for my failure.