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Not a Ural question but you folks are better at general fixes than other forums.

Post by codemonkey001 » Tue May 14, 2019 7:31 pm

So my Spring-Fall bike is a Royal Enfield Classic ('15). You'd think a manufacturer in India could come up with an adhesive that would handle heat and humidity, but you'd be wrong.

Last summer the vinyl cover on my seat started coming loose. According to the folks on the seemingly defunct classic motorworks forum, this was a common problem. They didn't have much in the way of solutions.

Finally got it out of the garage today, and it's really bugging me. Want to deal with it before it gives way entirely.

Oh learned Uralistas: how would you go about permanently affixing seat vinyl to metal?
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Post by Donbmw » Tue May 14, 2019 7:49 pm

Contact cement. But on my BMW,s they used contact cement and pop rivets on their metal seat pans.
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Post by mattzahr » Tue May 14, 2019 8:19 pm

+1 on what Don said - also 3M makes an upholstery cement (#31 or #33 I think) designed to keep vinyl in place for headliners - any auto parts store should have it....Best of luck!

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Post by rivers » Tue May 14, 2019 8:20 pm

Contact Cement is what I would try. Never used it with vinyl but have with leather. Worked well. I used the stuff from the local hdw store.
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Post by Marine Corps Codu » Tue May 14, 2019 8:38 pm

I might try Gorilla Glue. But when you read the instructions (put it on - wait until tacky - add water) it works MUCH better. Until I actually READ the instructions I found it didn't work nearly as well. Good luck!
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Post by Lofty » Tue May 14, 2019 8:49 pm

Consider an aerosol (spray) adhesive, such as what is sold at Auto Zone. Usually found in the same aisle as the tubes of RTV sealant, threadlock fluid and ancillary items.

As Gorilla Glue is intended to expand when it cures, I wouldn't use it for this particular repair.
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Post by codemonkey001 » Tue May 14, 2019 9:35 pm

Thanks, all. Auto contact cement curing as we speak. We'll see if it holds....

If not I'll see it someone in town can do rivets. Extreme, but cheaper than a new seat.
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Post by wooden nickel » Wed May 15, 2019 6:46 am

On my 06 Tourist, the original seatcover was glued on. It came loose. I asked Jon Heindl how to fix it and he called me back and said the Mother Ship was going to replace it.
The new seat had rivets and glue. A pop rivet tool is fairly cheap. Use a slightly longer rivet and a flat washer.
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Post by Snakeoil » Wed May 15, 2019 9:57 am

I too have used contact cement, but have had instances where over time it let go. In talking to an upholsterer friend, she said contact cement does not work well with vinyl upholstery materials because the solvents attack the vinyl. I actually had this happen on a center console pad which was the basis for me asking her about it.

The spray glues are the way to go. If the say on the can that they can be used with foam, they should not hurt the vinyl. And they will work as contact cement if you use them that way, meaning coating mating pieces and letting it dry.

Another mechanical solution might be to use chrome door edge trim made for car doors. Glue your seat and then apply the trim around the edge. Just make sure the fit is right or you could cut the vinyl.
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Post by Lmo » Wed May 15, 2019 2:37 pm

The spray glues are the way to go.
But it's absolutely, positively has to have "3M" on it, IMO.

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Post by harryball » Wed May 15, 2019 3:43 pm

All the above answers are blatantly wrong. The best obvious solution is to crush it. Make sure it's full of gas, leave the battery in for a good source of ignition and crush the sucker. That seat won't bother you again.

Or... Yeah... 3M upholstery cement if you want to be boring about it.
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Post by Mr Wazzock » Thu May 16, 2019 2:27 pm

I had exact same problem with a Moto Guzzi seat some years ago. Steel seat pan, and the cover folded under the edges and glued. However the glue is stuck to the paint, and it was the paint that was coming off. So if you're gluing, are you gluing onto bare steel or paint?

What I did was, after cleaning up and repainting the base, I drilled it and attached the edges of the cover with pop rivets.
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Post by codemonkey001 » Sun May 19, 2019 6:51 pm

Thanks, all. 3M trim adhesive applied liberally to bare metal and allowed to cure seems to be holding, my fat butt and all. Oh, and sorry, @harryball, your exciting solution came too late.
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Post by Bigflash1 » Thu May 23, 2019 6:10 pm

For future ref, here's the stuff we used on installing device boots on airplanes
3M 1300 Neoprene High Performance Rubber & Gasket Adhesive

You can get a small tube from Amazon
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