Weeping gearbox

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Weeping gearbox

Post by xpatriot » Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:00 pm

Hello,

I have a weeping shifter. I assume this means pulling the gearbox, cracking it open and replacing a seal. If anyone wants to make my day by telling me it's far easier than that, they can be my valentine :wub:

Thanks.
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Re: Weeping gearbox

Post by Manscout » Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:10 pm

Where is it weeping from?
"It goes nowhere fast, and everywhere cool".

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Re: Weeping gearbox

Post by xpatriot » Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:17 pm

Where the shifter shaft enters the gearbox.
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Re: Weeping gearbox

Post by hotflash44 » Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:41 pm

how about a heavier weight oil. worth a try IMO. :cheers:
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Re: Weeping gearbox

Post by Subsnowden » Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:46 pm

Sounds like a constant oil refresh system...
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Re: Weeping gearbox

Post by Tomcatfixer » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:11 pm

No easy fix. Gotta break it down to China-town.
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Re: Weeping gearbox

Post by Tomcatfixer » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:14 pm

Mark the position of the gear selector tab on the splined shaft before removing it. If you get it wrong, you have to completely disassemble the transmission to reposition it, unlike the newer gearboxes.
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Re: Weeping gearbox

Post by jaybird » Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:45 pm

In the short term you could try some "Liquid transmission seal", it can't hurt.
I wonder if you can retrofit the newer shifter and shaft to the older transmission?

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Re: Weeping gearbox

Post by Tomcatfixer » Thu Feb 14, 2019 9:00 pm

I wonder if you can retrofit the newer shifter and shaft to the older transmission?
I'm almost certain that this is possible. I believe the shaft diameters are the same. I can check, if necessary, but not right now.
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Re: Weeping gearbox

Post by Wildhorse Cafe » Thu Feb 14, 2019 9:17 pm

xpatriot wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:00 pm
Hello,

I have a weeping shifter. I assume this means pulling the gearbox, cracking it open and replacing a seal. If anyone wants to make my day by telling me it's far easier than that, they can be my valentine :wub:

Thanks.
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Re: Weeping gearbox

Post by Donbmw » Thu Feb 14, 2019 10:39 pm

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I did this also when I found my shift shaft leaking. I was not leaking for a couple months until I had my transmission replaced because of the wear on the input shaft and clutch splines being stripped.
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Re: Weeping gearbox

Post by Wildhorse Cafe » Fri Feb 15, 2019 12:29 pm

In the name of Ural Roberts, heal heal!
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Re: Weeping gearbox

Post by jaybird » Fri Feb 15, 2019 12:54 pm

Tomcatfixer wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 9:00 pm
I wonder if you can retrofit the newer shifter and shaft to the older transmission?
I'm almost certain that this is possible. I believe the shaft diameters are the same. I can check, if necessary, but not right now.
I agree, and no rush for me, the question was somewhat rhetorical and more to benefit the forum/conversation.
I could answer my own question, but to date I haven't had the two vintages of transmission apart at the same time, I do however currently have some older transmissions in pieces, so the next time I take apart a more modern one I plan to try it.

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Re: Weeping gearbox

Post by S 854 » Sat Feb 16, 2019 9:49 am

xpatriot wrote:
Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:00 pm

I have a weeping shifter. I assume this means pulling the gearbox, cracking it open and replacing a seal. If anyone wants to make my day...
Try a little Zen...

Play this during disassembly... mentally change “guitar” to “gearbox”... (in my best George Harrison falsetto, “While my gear-box gently wee-EEPS)



...and maybe this might help...

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Re: Weeping gearbox

Post by xpatriot » Sat Feb 16, 2019 2:18 pm

Donbmw you have won my heart...I’ll give it a try.
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