Clutch rod plunger and associated removal

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Clutch rod plunger and associated removal

Post by Subsnowden » Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:55 pm

The thing should just pull out right?! Of course my extended warranty went out 6 days ago and my clutch no-workie. Probably my thrust bearing but I don’t know because I can’t the $&#%@& plunger out. Do I HAVE to remove the tranny?! I’m about to set my Ural on fire...
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Re: Clutch rod plunger and associated removal

Post by Wildhorse Cafe » Wed Feb 06, 2019 3:14 pm

Take a deep breath and read some haiku. Talk to your dealer and see what he is willing to do to keep you as a happy customer. You maybe surprised, or maybe not, but it is as good a place to start as any. Stay calm and make it a moment of Zen.
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Re: Clutch rod plunger and associated removal

Post by Msblu79 » Wed Feb 06, 2019 3:22 pm

It should just pull right out, Perhaps the o-ring has torn and jammed it up. Grip it carefully with some pliers and twist & pull on it and see if it comes out. :)
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Re: Clutch rod plunger and associated removal

Post by Subsnowden » Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:11 pm

Msblu79 wrote:
Wed Feb 06, 2019 3:22 pm
It should just pull right out, Perhaps the o-ring has torn and jammed it up. Grip it carefully with some pliers and twist & pull on it and see if it comes out. :)
Yup. Got the smashed knuckles and blood-blister pinched fingers to prove it. Vice grips, angled needle nose, good channel locks, penetrating oil. I’m out of ideas and really don’t want to pull the tranny but it may go that route. I can get it about an 1/8 out but then cussing ensues.
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Re: Clutch rod plunger and associated removal

Post by Subsnowden » Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:14 pm

Wildhorse Cafe wrote:
Wed Feb 06, 2019 3:14 pm
Take a deep breath and read some haiku. Talk to your dealer and see what he is willing to do to keep you as a happy customer. You maybe surprised, or maybe not, but it is as good a place to start as any. Stay calm and make it a moment of Zen.
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Re: Clutch rod plunger and associated removal

Post by hotflash44 » Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:24 pm

Subsnowden wrote:
Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:55 pm
The thing should just pull out right?! Of course my extended warranty went out 6 days ago and my clutch no-workie. Probably my thrust bearing but I don’t know because I can’t the $&#%@& plunger out. Do I HAVE to remove the tranny?! I’m about to set my Ural on fire...
you know IMZ has been known to be a little flexible on the warranty dates,might check it out 6 days isn't to much. besides you will be a happy Uralista. just throwing that out! :cheers:
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Re: Clutch rod plunger and associated removal

Post by S 854 » Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:18 am

I grabbed one of the ears (which are on either side of the actuating lever) with some needle nose and rotated the plunger whilst pulling it out... wouldn’t come straight out but wiggling it a bit got it free...
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Re: Clutch rod plunger and associated removal

Post by Albuquralque » Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:39 pm

S 854 wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:18 am
I grabbed one of the ears (which are on either side of the actuating lever) with some needle nose and rotated the plunger whilst pulling it out... wouldn’t come straight out but wiggling it a bit got it free...

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Re: Clutch rod plunger and associated removal

Post by Subsnowden » Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:55 pm

S 854 wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:18 am
I grabbed one of the ears (which are on either side of the actuating lever) with some needle nose and rotated the plunger whilst pulling it out... wouldn’t come straight out but wiggling it a bit got it free...
Been trying that over and over with vise grips, channel locks, needle nose, angled needle nose, and lots of lubricant sprayed. It’s looking like I’m going to have to take the tranny out and not for dinner and a movie this time
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Re: Clutch rod plunger and associated removal

Post by S 854 » Thu Feb 07, 2019 5:37 pm

Subsnowden wrote:
Thu Feb 07, 2019 12:55 pm
It’s looking like I’m going to have to take the tranny out and not for dinner and a movie this time
Just be careful when you remove the tranny... keep the back end of it pointed up... or at least raised slightly...

If you tip the back end down the plunger will fall out and hit the floor...

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Re: Clutch rod plunger and associated removal

Post by Mr Wazzock » Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:26 pm

That part which he can't pull out? :?
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Re: Clutch rod plunger and associated removal

Post by S 854 » Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:03 pm

Mr Wazzock wrote:
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That part which he can't pull out? :?
That's the one!!!

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Re: Clutch rod plunger and associated removal

Post by Subsnowden » Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:19 pm

Well gave up. Removed swingarm. Got a better grip. Blood everywhere. Plunger still installed. Removed the tranny (after finding that sneaky forward right side bolt) and it appears I have the issue someone else did where my rod is stuck in the clutch end and does not want to move back. Gotta go read up on that thread again...
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Re: Clutch rod plunger and associated removal

Post by Subsnowden » Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:49 pm

Vice grips and cussing did the trick. Had to use the clutch rod to pound out the plunger then another rod on top of the clutch rod to get the plunger completely out. Thrust bearing; no bearings to speak of. Can I set it on fire now?
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Re: Clutch rod plunger and associated removal

Post by hotflash44 » Thu Feb 07, 2019 8:02 pm

does stiff upper lip, or Rome wasent built in a day help? maybe Neru fiddled while the Ural burned. :sarcasm: :cheers: anyway glad you got it out! now for a cold one! :beerchug:
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