Pistol caliber carbines?

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Re: Pistol caliber carbines?

Post by Mracer » Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:44 pm

Given that most folks on here are not Rockefellers, discharging a rifle cartridge inside their standard 3-4 bedroom house gives a high probability of the projectile exiting the walls of the house and potentially causing unwanted damage and unintended casualty. As I write this, i am starring at an AK pistol sitting next to my TV, but like Rich said - it's because I like it. I would not want to use it as a home defense weapon. Heck, the flash alone from the first round will blind me to bits, and how about concussion? You guys ever shot short barrel AR/AK type rifles in darkness or close quarters? It's not fun.
My go to is a Glock, well few of them. I tend to stick to the same type since it's easier to build muscle memory, plus let's admit it - Glocks are awesome! A 9mm pistol caliber is something even a kid can handle. I also have a surplus police issue shotgun for when things need to get serious, loaded with a BB and Slug rounds combo. A 9mm rifle inside the house is cool but again, you got that barrel and stock to deal with in tight spaces and if you are wounded, operating a rifle, even if light is very hard.
Personally I don't believe in hiding my guns. They are available to me at a moments notice. My kids grew up with guns and have enough discipline and respect for it. Heck, my 13 yo son is prob more proficient with it than many adults I know, however regular practice is a must... just like with riding motorcycles. Gun is a serious tool and demands respect. If you don't trust yourself around it you either need training or should stay away from them. No safe or storage will make up for the lack of training. The minute you take it out of the safe, if you are not enough trained, you will be a danger to yourself and others. I spend good amount of time at ranges and a good number of folks who find themselves there should not be near guns and are a danger to society when handling a gun. I normally leave when more than 5-6 shooters are at the range as there will be at least one who is waving his firearm or doing something stupid...
It is my firm believe that along with the 2nd amendment right there has to be a responsibility of passing a training class before obtaining ability to own firearms. I wouldn't mind seeing a law for it. As an ER/ICU nurse my wife regularly sees self-inflicted gun wounds - you guessed it, mostly butts and inner thigh/crotch area... and the guys almost always blame the gun, and rarely themselves for it. But we know better...
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Re: Pistol caliber carbines?

Post by jvan1954 » Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:29 am

Moderators, with all due respect to the above poster, how is advocating for gun control NOT a political post? While I personally agree with almost everything he says, a line is crossed in the last paragraph. This thread has been about discussing/comparing legal firearms and not opinions concerning the 2nd amendment as we all know how slippery that slope is. I mean no disrespect, Max, simply pointing out that this is not the place for a discussion on the 2nd. Thanks
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Re: Pistol caliber carbines?

Post by Tin Man » Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:08 pm

Although they are all lever actions, I have them in .357/.38, .45 Colt and 454 Casull. I am looking for a .44 Mag to complete my wish list. :cheers:
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Re: Pistol caliber carbines?

Post by gobium » Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:26 pm

Time is essential when it comes to home defense.
German and Belgian shepherd will buy you time get to the weapon.
I believe machine gun is the best home defense.

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Re: Pistol caliber carbines?

Post by Pterodactyl » Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:17 pm

Well placed Claymore mines are effective too.
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Re: Pistol caliber carbines?

Post by Niteblues » Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:21 pm

gobium wrote:
Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:26 pm
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I believe machine gun is the best home defense.
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this is the best we can do while staying within the current laws (here in ga, anyways).
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Re: Pistol caliber carbines?

Post by isldtime » Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:18 pm

Niteblues wrote:
Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:21 pm
gobium wrote:
Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:26 pm
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I believe machine gun is the best home defense.
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this is the best we can do while staying within the current laws (here in ga, anyways).
was about to build a Ruger Charger with the Franklin trigger but figured I would get into trouble at the range.
Building a NRL22 base class on a Savage B22 precision instead.
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Re: Pistol caliber carbines?

Post by Mracer » Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:45 am

jvan1954 wrote:
Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:29 am
Moderators, with all due respect to the above poster, how is advocating for gun control NOT a political post? While I personally agree with almost everything he says, a line is crossed in the last paragraph. This thread has been about discussing/comparing legal firearms and not opinions concerning the 2nd amendment as we all know how slippery that slope is. I mean no disrespect, Max, simply pointing out that this is not the place for a discussion on the 2nd. Thanks
Jerry - LOL, let me know how that complain progresses. :cheers:
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Re: Pistol caliber carbines?

Post by jvan1954 » Mon Oct 19, 2020 10:24 am

Mracer wrote:
Mon Oct 19, 2020 9:45 am
jvan1954 wrote:
Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:29 am
Moderators, with all due respect to the above poster, how is advocating for gun control NOT a political post? While I personally agree with almost everything he says, a line is crossed in the last paragraph. This thread has been about discussing/comparing legal firearms and not opinions concerning the 2nd amendment as we all know how slippery that slope is. I mean no disrespect, Max, simply pointing out that this is not the place for a discussion on the 2nd. Thanks
Jerry - LOL, let me know how that complain progresses. :cheers:
Were you attempting to type complaint?
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Re: Pistol caliber carbines?

Post by Rich Maund » Mon Oct 19, 2020 11:15 am

LOL. Just shooting that fast at any of our local ranges will get you kicked out or banned.
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