VASKA vs. WASR 10, thoughts?

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VASKA vs. WASR 10, thoughts?

Post by sagerat » Fri Sep 06, 2019 3:53 pm

OK, it's Russian related. My S&W AR-15 needs company and I have been toying with either the VASKA or the WASR 10 version of the AK 47. Intended use is mostly plinking, zombie removal, or similar recreational uses. Not planning on self-defense or bulls-eye shooting as I have other firearms for that.

Anybody here actually own either or shot either?

I'm still adjusting to AKs being more expensive than ARs...
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Re: VASKA vs. WASR 10, thoughts?

Post by sKiZo » Fri Sep 06, 2019 8:25 pm

Probably best to get your zombie hunting in sooner or later, ok. Looks like the Zombie Rights Movement is catching hold fast. Not to forget, zombies were people too ...

PS ... they prefer to be called "differently animated" ...
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Post by sagerat » Sat Sep 07, 2019 12:31 am

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Re: VASKA vs. WASR 10, thoughts?

Post by HassoBoxhead » Sat Sep 07, 2019 7:03 am

I’ve had a WASR for many years and love it. It’s a tank, but for me still accurate and a ton of fun to shoot. I’ve ran about 5,000 rounds thru it and the fun just never seems to wear off. I have the folding stock version, bought a wood pistol grip to match the rest of the gun and varnished it in Russian red. Can’t go wrong with a WASR, although a lot of “AK aficionados” will put it down, in the end, it’s an AK, not a Ferrari...
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Post by sagerat » Sat Sep 07, 2019 4:15 pm

HB, thanks for the pic and comments.

Double Tap, my LGS, had both an unfired WASR 10 and a new VASKA. Got to handle and dry fire both and they field stripped the WASR just so I could see the process as compared to my AR-15. VASKA has upgraded trunnion, trigger, and bolt group, and bigger tab for mag release. WASR was rougher in most respects, but I know people are amazed at their durability. WASR was about $70 more. LGS owner recommends VASKA due to its internal improvements.

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Re: VASKA vs. WASR 10, thoughts?

Post by :FI:Igor » Sat Sep 07, 2019 6:29 pm

I've had WASR 10's for years. Actually, modified, as the original WASR is single stack magazine. Mine had to trim the mag wells a little. Other than that very accurate; one has produced moa 2 groups.
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Post by Lofty » Sat Sep 07, 2019 10:29 pm

sagerat, have you considered the C39V2? Like the WASR-10, it's also sourced from Century Arms. Unlike the WASR-10, the C39 series is American-made. The difference in build quality and performance is plainly evident. This isn't conjecture. I one one of the breed.

You'll pay a bit more for the C39V2 as compared to the WASR-10. If you're already willing to pay close to $800.00 (MSRP) for the hoary old WASR-10, though, why not go in for a bit more and get something that's really a step up? You'll never need worry about 922r, either.

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Re: VASKA vs. WASR 10, thoughts?

Post by sagerat » Sun Sep 08, 2019 12:43 am

VASKA is Century Arms and American-made as well. I’m leaning toward getting the VASKA, which is $639. I’ll research the C39V2, though. Thanks for the tip.
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Post by INSUBORDINATOR » Sun Sep 08, 2019 12:40 pm

I bought a new side fold , Romanian, Century SAR-1 about 20 years ago when they were under $300. The first time I fired it - I realized my Winchester lever action 30-30, & Enfield .308 were redundant - & sold them. For years I referred to my SAR-1 as just a Romanian cheapy. In recent years, I have learned that I lucked out by getting what is today - a sought after rifle. It has been 100% reliable, & surprisingly accurate once the front sight was adjusted.
My advice: whichever you buy - try to get the nicest you can afford. Getting one set up the way you like it will be cheaper than doing it yourself later.
IMO - a MUST HAVE is a left side receiver military scope mount, This allows you to quickly & easily mount a Ukrainian ZENIT illuminated scope (with Simonov reticle - the correct one for 7.62X39). This well improve your accuracy (+ enjoyment) out to a couple of hundred yards even in low light.

Even though AKs were made so toothless "third worlder's" could keep them running with animal grease & a knotted shoelace - they are STEEL - & if well cared for - they should run indefinitely, & handed down to your grandkids. My daughter even enjoyed shooting mine. It's a keeper. I've also added a pretty Hungarian "target Model" with thumb hole wood stock, & Zenit military scope.
I know you will enjoy your new rifle. Best stock up on ammo. WalMart is going to stop carrying it.
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Re: VASKA vs. WASR 10, thoughts?

Post by sagerat » Sun Sep 08, 2019 4:37 pm

Thanks for the info; I buy 20-50 Castrol at Wally World and ammo elsewhere. I’ll start looking for a new place to get my oil, now. I’ll
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Post by dale914 » Fri Sep 13, 2019 10:48 pm

Sagerat, I had a WASR 10, and compared to my now Yugo M70AB2 it had a lot of issues. The piston had no play in it, the gas tube was canted, the front sight was canted, the finish picked up rust quickly, the trigger would slap forward. The Yugo does none of that (plus it's for sale, full biased disclosure) I really preferred the finish on the Yugo, and that everything was straight and better built, but they are what they are! I recommend anything as being better than nothing!
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Post by sagerat » Sat Sep 14, 2019 9:45 am

Thanks, Insubordinator and Dale.
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Re: VASKA vs. WASR 10, thoughts?

Post by gembarok » Sat Sep 14, 2019 2:18 pm

Greetings,

Anything Century Arms, was produced by a Congress of monkeys wielding Dremel tools. It really is hit or miss. I've had several. Almost all of them were made back in the day with parts kits from Czech, Romy, or Yugo. The M70's were Yugo parts kits and received the highest reviews. Most firearms of Yugo manufacture were pretty well made. I have one and love it. I never really was able to keep up with the WASR, SAR-1, SAR-2 thing because Century Arms never really kept it straight. But it's an AK. I have literally driven a tank over one in the desert and it still performed. Something you might want to consider is some of the AK-74's out there in 5.45X39.

Here's what my thinking was back in the day. I paid $200 for a Romanian WASR-2 single stack. Took a Dremel tool to it and made it a double stack (Because all they were was a double stack that CIA welded a couple pieces of sheet metal on to make it single stack) and put the parts on it to make it 922r compliant. Caliber was 5.45X39 because the Russian ammo was cheapest and free flowing into the US back then. I then got a S&W AR-15 Upper chambered in 5.45X39. You have to shortstack the magazines a little but PMAG's will feed it.

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Re: VASKA vs. WASR 10, thoughts?

Post by INSUBORDINATOR » Mon Sep 16, 2019 11:49 am

A little off subject - but this discussion has reminded me of the usefulness of high capacity semi auto rifles. Last night while surfing TV shows, I watched a "Mountain Man" ELK HUNT with a cap & ball Black powder Muzzle loader. He made a big deal of being in "HUNGRY BEAR COUNTRY". THEN -
I realized this was staged just for dramatic "REALITY TV" I'd bet the camera man was toting "BACK UP". I'd sure want a multiple shot high powered rifle in the brush where HUNGRY BEARS are - Also IF HUNGRY MYSELF & really wanted to bag an ELK - I'd use only a semi auto & multiple rounds. Corrected follow up shots have a much higher chance of success. A properly sighted in scope helps a lot also. I didn't watch long enough to see if he got is Elk - or how he dealt with it if he shot it - they probably weigh more than he did. Maybe the BEARS helped him carry it home.
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Re: VASKA vs. WASR 10, thoughts?

Post by sagerat » Sat Sep 28, 2019 9:17 pm

Went with the WASR-10 as newer versions are supposed to be improved. Rivets looked good; sights appear aligned; Magpul mag does not rattle.

Hope to get it out for test firing next week.
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