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Re: 2019 MIL (check engine light) stays on

Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 10:57 pm
by RC20
I had the same issue and it was hard telling what did what.

Initially it looked like a sensor and that got replaced (I was not up on the code readout and it was done during the serice as they did gert a readout ala I was long ways from home and service needed doing anywya)

then it came back and went away only to come back. Cycling the system did nothing for eliciting a blink code.,

It would occur reliable on a fill up (always a longer run) and then go away after running a while.

Then after the last one I tried to duplicate by overfill and it did not come back and has not recurred since.,

Go figure and there may be some oddities to the system.

Re: 2019 MIL (check engine light) stays on

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2019 10:39 pm
by sbaker
the Mil light will probably go off in a few days.. I had a big back-fire on my 2019... (too much fuel after trying to kick start) The Mil light came, probably the extra 02 in the system caused the O2 sensor to trip. After about 3 days of riding around it went off. Meanwhile, I re-attaceed the compliance fitting (the rubber tube between the Throttle Body and the Air Feed) It was dislodged during the back fire. Bike runs fine. 3K service coming in a week or so, I'll check the valves and do the other stuff.. These are TOUGH birds...

NOTE: The error code will still be IN memory, but the light will go off on the display....... Ride on!

Re: 2019 MIL (check engine light) stays on

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 2:59 pm
by Lofty
sbaker wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 10:39 pm
I re-attached the compliance fitting (the rubber tube between the Throttle Body and the Air Feed) It was dislodged during the back fire.
Perhaps you meant to refer to the branch tubes? They are the large hoses that provide a physical connection between the air filter housing and the individual throttle bodies.

The compliance fittings are small flanges that are installed between the throttle body and the cylinder head.
https://www.uralne.com/intake-flange-set/

Re: 2019 MIL (check engine light) stays on

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 5:11 pm
by RC20
sbaker wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 10:39 pm
the Mil light will probably go off in a few days.. I had a big back-fire on my 2019... (too much fuel after trying to kick start) The Mil light came, probably the extra 02 in the system caused the O2 sensor to trip. After about 3 days of riding around it went off. Meanwhile, I re-attaceed the compliance fitting (the rubber tube between the Throttle Body and the Air Feed) It was dislodged during the back fire. Bike runs fine. 3K service coming in a week or so, I'll check the valves and do the other stuff.. These are TOUGH birds...

NOTE: The error code will still be IN memory, but the light will go off on the display....... Ride on!
You need to get more info in your profile! (grin)

Let me know if you need directions, its a bit lost in the setup.

Where you are at (city and state is fine, no phone number or address) and what machine you have.

Re: 2019 MIL (check engine light) stays on

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 5:38 pm
by Mr Wazzock
AndyH wrote:
Fri May 03, 2019 4:25 pm
sean0262 wrote:
Thu May 02, 2019 1:58 am
I have disconnected the battery for several hours to reset the ECU. Still the MIL light remains on.
Is this a thing for the 2019 model? All the other EFI models ECU's are disconnected when you switch the ignition off, they are not live and do not require power to maintain memory (a bit like a flash drive).
Only just seen this. Actually they are constantly live via Fuse #1. (Or some part of them is.)

Re: 2019 MIL (check engine light) stays on

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2019 1:08 am
by Geno89074
can obd wiz pro and the appropriate cable shut off or clear a mil/cel on this model??

Re: 2019 MIL (check engine light) stays on

Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2019 2:21 am
by AndyH
Mr Wazzock wrote:
Tue Oct 01, 2019 5:38 pm
Only just seen this. Actually they are constantly live via Fuse #1. (Or some part of them is.)
Looks that way doesn't it - if that is the case then there is no need to disconnect the battery - just pull fuse 1 which could be fuse 6 if the box is upside down depending on which one you have.
Be interesting to see if there is 12Vdc at G4 on the ECU connector or if there is a requirement to have generator output live?

Re: 2019 MIL (check engine light) stays on

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 4:54 pm
by Mr Wazzock
Sorry don't understand the last bit. Generator output is permanently connected to battery so is always live?

Or are you talking about a fuse or link in the battery negative lead? (Which I don't have, and I'm not sure that any EFI bikes do.)

But yes pulling fuse #1 should do it. I disconnected mine once (actually the battery, at the ignition switch plug) but there wasn't anything different afterwards as a result.

Fuse #2 is 10A (blue?) so that's a way of telling which way up the fusebox is. Mine is #1 at the top. (it's beside the steering head.)

Re: 2019 MIL (check engine light) stays on

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 7:20 am
by GHGoodwin
Don't trust the wiring diagram. I've seen fuse boxes right side up and mostly upside down in relation to the diagram. Check by wire color only.

FWIW - On my '14 the coils have constant power also.

Re: 2019 MIL (check engine light) stays on

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 1:16 pm
by Mr Wazzock
That is not uninteresting! Image

Re: 2019 MIL (check engine light) stays on

Posted: Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:48 pm
by Bigflash1
Heindle has a good video on utube now explaining exactly how to clear the engine light on a 2019. The reason for the random clearing is probably the three cycles with 10 seconds or more of off time between. Catch the video and get the exact steps.

Re: 2019 MIL (check engine light) stays on

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:01 am
by AndyH
Mr Wazzock wrote:
Mon Oct 14, 2019 4:54 pm
Sorry don't understand the last bit. Generator output is permanently connected to battery so is always live?
Or are you talking about a fuse or link in the battery negative lead? (Which I don't have, and I'm not sure that any EFI bikes do.)
But yes pulling fuse #1 should do it. I disconnected mine once (actually the battery, at the ignition switch plug) but there wasn't anything different afterwards as a result.
Fuse #2 is 10A (blue?) so that's a way of telling which way up the fusebox is. Mine is #1 at the top. (it's beside the steering head.)
Sorry, you are 100% correct.
Finally got around to checking G4 and there is 12.85V on that pin with the ignition off. Pulling Fuse 1 (or 6 depending) will remove power from the ECU just as effectively as pulling the battery.
I still think that pulling power will not reset anything in bikes prior to 2019. My guess is you need the Dealers Software to make any lasting change and that requires a remap.

Re: 2019 MIL (check engine light) stays on

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:02 pm
by treeman1942
Today, I rode my 2019 Gear Up about 100 miles in 90-degree temperatures. After the Ural was parked in the sun for about 4 hours, the engine fault light activated when I started it up and stayed on all the way home, about 50 miles. I reset it with the 3 on and offs and the light disappeared, no fault code appearing. Is this normal after sitting in the hot sun? I now have 5100 miles on the bike.

Re: 2019 MIL (check engine light) stays on

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:39 pm
by windmill
treeman1942 wrote:
Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:02 pm
Today, I rode my 2019 Gear Up about 100 miles in 90-degree temperatures. After the Ural was parked in the sun for about 4 hours, the engine fault light activated when I started it up and stayed on all the way home, about 50 miles. I reset it with the 3 on and offs and the light disappeared, no fault code appearing. Is this normal after sitting in the hot sun? I now have 5100 miles on the bike.
Once in a great while they may display a random MIL light without an active fault. Mine sits out every day rain or shine, hot or cold without issue.
Last time I got a MIL light, it didn't store a flash code, but when I checked it with my OBD reader it showed low voltage.

Probably nothing.

Re: 2019 MIL (check engine light) stays on

Posted: Sun Jul 26, 2020 11:34 pm
by treeman1942
Thanks, Barry

I appreciate your comment!