Hayes Brake Service Kit Now Available

Woe unto you that bought the first model year of a major remake, perhaps this section can help address any 2014 and later model Ural "imperfections". Here's a special section for folks with the latest rigs to discuss 2014 and later model-related topics such fuel injection, 3-wheel disc brakes, hydraulic steering dampers, spin-on oil filters and other anomalies that don't belong on true Russsian motorcycle ;-P We've gone from using big hammers and greasy wrenches to needing computers and Ouija boards in order to fix our rigs.
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Hayes Brake Service Kit Now Available

Post by Tomcatfixer » Wed Feb 28, 2018 3:39 pm

After multiple calls to Hayes Brake to inquire about purchasing replacement caliper slides...
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...I received a 'phone call from R&D guy Nik Hays at IMWA.

Nik was pleased to inform me that IMWA and Hayes have put together a new service kit for the Hayes caliper that includes new stainless steel slides, slide seals, mounting bolts with pre-applied threadlocker, circlips, and lube.
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The part number and nomenclature are IMZ-8.1040-27032 - Service Kit for Rear Brake Caliper

This kit is already available in Redmond and can be ordered via your favorite dealer. He obviously couldn't quote a firm price because each dealer will have their own markup, but said that the kit should cost around $60.
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Re: Hayes Brake Service Kit Now Available

Post by wooden nickel » Wed Feb 28, 2018 4:24 pm

Great to know. Thanks for the research Chad. I've been in some salt and will probably need to upgrade to stainless steel.
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Re: Hayes Brake Service Kit Now Available

Post by GHGoodwin » Wed Feb 28, 2018 4:57 pm

It's the o-ring seals that cause the problem. The caliper rotates a bit against/on the sliders every time you brake and the o-rings take the beating. Eventually they flatten out and start to leak. I replace mine every spring.

The size is 2.7 x 16.9. Material should be Buna-n rubber with 70A duro hardness.
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Re: Hayes Brake Service Kit Now Available

Post by Speedbump » Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:00 pm

Thanks for the enlightenment Chad. I will add this to my list of stuff to ask for when I am in Redmond next week.
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Re: Hayes Brake Service Kit Now Available

Post by Tomcatfixer » Wed Feb 28, 2018 6:07 pm

when I am in Redmond next week
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Nik said that they had 50 kits built-up. My dealer ordered two (one for me and one for the shelf), looks like Nick's gonna order one. If you nab one, there'll be "only" 46 left. :wink:
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Re: Hayes Brake Service Kit Now Available

Post by Trevorski » Fri Mar 02, 2018 10:46 pm

Nice! I wonder if Viton o-rings might hold up longer than regular buna o-rings?
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Re: Hayes Brake Service Kit Now Available

Post by Trevorski » Fri Mar 02, 2018 10:47 pm

Have they addressed the issue that some have noted about the relative length of the sleeves vs threaded portion of the bolt that left too little engaged thread?
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Re: Hayes Brake Service Kit Now Available

Post by Tomcatfixer » Sat Mar 03, 2018 6:18 am

Have they addressed the issue that some have noted about the relative length of the sleeves vs threaded portion of the bolt that left too little engaged thread?
I asked Nik about this, since it was such an issue for me (http://www.sovietsteeds.com/forums/view ... it=Threads), and he said that he wasn't aware of the issue. The nee stainless steel sleeves are the same length as their predecessors. I'll have to show him the forum thread above and see if he'll take a look at how much 'bite' he's actually getting on his slide pin threads.
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Re: Hayes Brake Service Kit Now Available

Post by Albuquralque » Sat Mar 03, 2018 9:30 am

I've solved all those issues............. :D
"Put a little gravel in your travel"

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Re: Hayes Brake Service Kit Now Available

Post by Tomcatfixer » Sat Mar 03, 2018 9:41 am

I've solved all those issues............. :D
Albuquralque logic...
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Re: Hayes Brake Service Kit Now Available

Post by Albuquralque » Sat Mar 03, 2018 1:25 pm

Tomcatfixer wrote:
I've solved all those issues............. :D
Albuquralque logic...
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:thumbsup:

That philosophy works in so many other areas of life as well!!!!!!..................... :D
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Re: Hayes Brake Service Kit Now Available

Post by gobium » Sat Mar 03, 2018 1:39 pm

Dont park on hill side if you got no P brake

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Re: Hayes Brake Service Kit Now Available

Post by Albuquralque » Sat Mar 03, 2018 1:44 pm

gobium wrote:Dont park on hill side if you got no P brake

You can always park sideways on a hill side!....... :D
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Re: Hayes Brake Service Kit Now Available

Post by windmill » Sat Mar 03, 2018 11:45 pm

I find I'm having to adjust the parking brake every 8 to 10 riding days. While not ideal I don't see why one would be frustrated to the point of not using or removing it.
Perhaps having the P brake lever immediately at hand on the bar is the difference? I find its simplicity of use and convenience still far outweighs the task of keeping it adjusted or the alternatives.
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Re: Hayes Brake Service Kit Now Available

Post by Tomcatfixer » Sun Mar 04, 2018 6:27 am

While not ideal I don't see why one would be frustrated to the point of not using or removing it.
It just got to the point that every time I NEEDED to use the parking brake, it was out of adjustment. It was frustrating. I got tired of the additional time and effort required. Please keep in mind, I ride the Mobile Chernobyl EVERY day. It's a lot of pad wear and a lot of parking brake adjusting. After a while, I just stopped adjusting it, then stopped using it entirely (I mean, Virginia Beach IS at sea level and quite flat). I intend to move to a more mountainous area in a few years, and I can see how helpful having a functional parking brake would be more of a benefit there.
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2015 Ural cT "Mobile Chernobyl", 1999 Ural Tourist "Desert DisGrace: the Iron (Oxide) Curtain", 1994 Honda VFR750F, 1986 Yamaha FZX700S Fazer

Previous rides:
2007 Honda VTR1000 FireStorm (Super Hawk in U.S.)
2001 Buell Blast! - - - - - - - 2005 Yamaha FJR1300
1993 Honda CBR600F2 - -1984 Yamaha FJ1100
1986 Yamaha FZX700S (a different one than above)

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