A Tale of Woe :(

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A Tale of Woe :(

Post by cateyetech » Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:39 am

We were going to head out to run the Tennessee & Mississippi sections of the TAT
on May 31, but due to flooding and a few other things we postponed our departure to June 7th
New tires and a list of thing serviced, we're packed and ready :D

Off we go, the first day will be the longest of the three days of the trip heading to Andrews NC to start the TAT
We did have to reroute due to flooding near Bigelow AR :o
We stopped several times along the way, that's how slow we roll 8)
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We made it to Holly Springs MS, our first camp :)
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I noticed a strange noise while idling around the camp (going back & forth to the restrooms :lol: )
so the next morning, while the bike was cool, I checked a few things :foilhead:

While Ms cet goofed around
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but it was not our lucky day :(
the noise was coming from the alternator adaptor :shock: :(

so we headed back home :evil:
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We made it home & when I disassembled the adaptor the front bearing was bad
& the outer race spun in the housing and gobbled it up :(

So parts on order & the trip is postponed until September :(

Daisy ran great even with a load equal to her weight :twisted:
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If we just had one of those 2019's GU's :wink:
No wait they run the same adaptor! :P

80k & still NEVER BEEN ON A TRAILER!

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Re: A Tale of Woe :(

Post by Bendog02760 » Tue Jun 18, 2019 5:10 am

Nice report Cateye, looks like a great adventure for another day. Pretty good you are able to diagnose it quickly in the field!
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Re: A Tale of Woe :(

Post by chaos2 » Tue Jun 18, 2019 8:36 am

80k and never been trailered! Wish I could say that, both of my bikes have had to be trailered home after mechanical issues that couldn't be fixed on the road.
past afflictions include limey motocars and bikes, R60/2, R65ls, and a Citroen.
Now an 87 K75s, DB Haanjo gravel bike, and a rusty 2012 GU bought new
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Re: A Tale of Woe :(

Post by davek » Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:17 am

Good write-up and picks. Sorry to hear about the delay to your plans, but stuff happens.

Now I have one more thing to worry about when I hear Ural noises while on a trip. :)
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Re: A Tale of Woe :(

Post by stagewex » Tue Jun 18, 2019 10:56 am

Hey, you made it home so that 4-Leaf Clover (and the Ural Gods) were in your favor.
Great adventure.
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Re: A Tale of Woe :(

Post by cateyetech » Wed Jun 19, 2019 8:15 am

Hey Guys

Thanks :thumbsup:

We had a good time :D
even on a short trip :lol:
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Next time Ms cet will be working and school will be back in, so
my monkey selection will limited to K9's :)

I carry a 20+ year old clover, sealed in clear tape
so far our luck has held :mrgreen:

wish me luck & low water on the next attempt :lol:

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A Warn XT17 witch that works from any angle - More handmade parts than I can list :foilhead:

The only Ural to post a second gear wheelie :evil:

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Re: A Tale of Woe :(

Post by on2wheels52 » Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:05 am

That bridge looks familiar.........
My buddy was still working at the welcome center in March.
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Re: A Tale of Woe :(

Post by cateyetech » Wed Jun 19, 2019 7:40 pm

on2wheels52 wrote:
Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:05 am
That bridge looks familiar.........
My buddy was still working at the welcome center in March.
Hey Jim

Yes it does :lol:
even that view :)

We didn't stop there this time :(
Next time I'll stop and say hi 8)

see ya on the trail :twisted:

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765cc - Mikuni TM33 carburetors - Modified stock airbox with Uni foam filter
2-1 exhaust - Hand worked cylinder heads - Type V ignition system
A Warn XT17 witch that works from any angle - More handmade parts than I can list :foilhead:

The only Ural to post a second gear wheelie :evil:

2000 Patrol Teh Урал
Thanks DaveO, I'll try to ride it like you, I'll try :foilhead:

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Re: A Tale of Woe :(

Post by Uralhwy » Sun Jun 23, 2019 9:47 pm

Nice write up and pictures. Way to go. :) :clap:
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Re: A Tale of Woe :(

Post by URAL CT » Wed Jun 26, 2019 5:38 pm

Hey Charlie...just a note: back in about 2008/2009 or maybe earlier, Billy G had a write up on using this "space age" grease (can't remember the name/brand) + replacing the Ruskie bearings with a name brand of the western world. The Russian grease tends to melt & was screwing up the alt adapter Ruskie bearings. I did this grease & bearing upgrade and my adapter has been in service for almost 200k clicks. I have gone through 2 alternators but have been using the same adapter since I bought the Ural. Someone or even Billy G might chime in and name this magic grease. I'm gettin' too old to remember the kinds of enhancements I've done to my '07 Ural. :old: The newer Urals may have better bearings than the older ones since I believe that Ural has been outsourcing some of their parts.
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Re: A Tale of Woe :(

Post by cateyetech » Wed Jun 26, 2019 6:01 pm

URAL CT wrote:
Wed Jun 26, 2019 5:38 pm
Hey Charlie...just a note: back in about 2008/2009 or maybe earlier, Billy G had a write up on using this "space age" grease (can't remember the name/brand) + replacing the Ruskie bearings with a name brand of the western world. The Russian grease tends to melt & was screwing up the alt adapter Ruskie bearings. I did this grease & bearing upgrade and my adapter has been in service for almost 200k clicks. I have gone through 2 alternators but have been using the same adapter since I bought the Ural. Someone or even Billy G might chime in and name this magic grease. I'm gettin' too old to remember the kinds of enhancements I've done to my '07 Ural. :old: The newer Urals may have better bearings than the older ones since I believe that Ural has been outsourcing some of their parts.
CT
Hey Charlie, too you too :lol:
Good to hear from you :D
Thanks for the info, I read about that Krytrox (?) grease
too rich for this poor boy :lol:
so I removed the bearing and filled them with REGULAR grease
in 2013 @ 5,000km
All was good, but in back in September when I went through the rig
I replaced the bearings while I was there :)
and thought (scary right) all these Urals are running around with stock
adaptor bearing grease
So I just put them in like they came.
BAD move on my part :(
I knew better :evil:
Live & Learn :lol:

I WILL be disassembling the new adaptor and
PACKING those new bearings with EXTRA/NEW grease :twisted:


Stay Cool :lol:

Do you still have the Marry K wheels?
do want to sell them?
I have a good, chrome 19" wheel I would trade if interested

Hope to see ya on the trail :cheers:

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765cc - Mikuni TM33 carburetors - Modified stock airbox with Uni foam filter
2-1 exhaust - Hand worked cylinder heads - Type V ignition system
A Warn XT17 witch that works from any angle - More handmade parts than I can list :foilhead:

The only Ural to post a second gear wheelie :evil:

2000 Patrol Teh Урал
Thanks DaveO, I'll try to ride it like you, I'll try :foilhead:

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Re: A Tale of Woe :(

Post by BillyG » Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:48 pm

KRYTOX XHT-BDZ. Nothing else comes close. $115 for a 2 oz. tube. Doesn’t melt or freeze. You need exotic chemicals to w@$# it out. It’s immune to gas and oil. You’ll use a pea size amount in the entire bearing. Sell the what’s left (pretty much the whole tube) to another in the fold or use it for other things.

Don’t pack roller (ball) bearings with grease. The balls will slide instead of roll and heat up ruining the bearing in short order. A small dab between each ball is all you want (with any grease). All that is needed is a layer thinner than a human hair for the balls to run on.
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Re: A Tale of Woe :(

Post by cateyetech » Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:52 pm

BillyG wrote:
Wed Jun 26, 2019 7:48 pm
KRYTOX XHT-BDZ. Nothing else comes close. $115 for a 2 oz. tube. Doesn’t melt or freeze. You need exotic chemicals to w@$# it out. It’s immune to gas and oil. You’ll use a pea size amount in the entire bearing. Sell the what’s left (pretty much the whole tube) to another in the fold or use it for other things.

Don’t pack roller (ball) bearings with grease. The balls will slide instead of roll and heat up ruining the bearing in short order. A small dab between each ball is all you want (with any grease). All that is needed is a layer thinner than a human hair for the balls to run on.
Hey BG

Thanks for the info :)

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765cc - Mikuni TM33 carburetors - Modified stock airbox with Uni foam filter
2-1 exhaust - Hand worked cylinder heads - Type V ignition system
A Warn XT17 witch that works from any angle - More handmade parts than I can list :foilhead:

The only Ural to post a second gear wheelie :evil:

2000 Patrol Teh Урал
Thanks DaveO, I'll try to ride it like you, I'll try :foilhead:

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Re: A Tale of Woe :(

Post by URAL CT » Wed Jun 26, 2019 8:26 pm

Charlie...glad you mentioned the MK wheels, I've forgotten about 'em. Don't know where they're at but I'll check the garage & storage. I'll PM you as soon as I find them.
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Post by cateyetech » Wed Jun 26, 2019 10:39 pm

Thank you Charlie
No rush, take it easy :)
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765cc - Mikuni TM33 carburetors - Modified stock airbox with Uni foam filter
2-1 exhaust - Hand worked cylinder heads - Type V ignition system
A Warn XT17 witch that works from any angle - More handmade parts than I can list :foilhead:

The only Ural to post a second gear wheelie :evil:

2000 Patrol Teh Урал
Thanks DaveO, I'll try to ride it like you, I'll try :foilhead:

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