New product announcement and call for opinions - Single Piece Extended Reverse Hand Shift lever

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Re: New product announcement and call for opinions - Single Piece Extended Reverse Hand Shift lever

Post by Tomcatfixer » Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:40 pm

I'm still waiting on a review of functionality of your reverse shifter with that 10 pound hand grenade mounted in place of the knob.
If I didn't have to un-wire my light-up FlameBall shift knob...
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...I would remove it and install the hand grenade to give you a thorough report. :lol:
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Re: New product announcement and call for opinions - Single Piece Extended Reverse Hand Shift lever

Post by jaybird » Mon Jan 07, 2019 3:14 pm

Tomcatfixer wrote:
Mon Jan 07, 2019 2:40 pm
I'm still waiting on a review of functionality of your reverse shifter with that 10 pound hand grenade mounted in place of the knob.
If I didn't have to un-wire my light-up FlameBall shift knob...
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...I would remove it and install the hand grenade to give you a thorough report. :lol:
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Yer gonna shoot yer eye out :lol:

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Re: New product announcement and call for opinions - Single Piece Extended Reverse Hand Shift lever

Post by tgtrotter » Mon Jan 07, 2019 3:44 pm

Save your eye. The flaming ball is par excellence on the Mobile Chernobyl.
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Re: New product announcement and call for opinions - Single Piece Extended Reverse Hand Shift lever

Post by HemisphereOffroad » Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:15 pm

Hi all,

Just getting back to check on this thread, I really didn't expect to see so much awesome discussion!

Let me try to answer what I can....

1. We don't have a prototype to mount yet. We were getting ready to start the CNC process, but got some offline input from a current user of our existing product, and wanted to go back and check some dimensions to make sure it is as inexpensive as possible. We are looking at reducing the "jog" and making it straight up with an outward bend at the top only. His 2011 Patrol has no clearance issues in this area.

Thoughts on this?

2. We have been running the current design reverse shifter on our 2015 GU for about 9 months now, on the street and over hill, dale and mud. Took it off to inspect it once, no galling or fit problems. That said, if you use it normally, the splines should not present any issues. Just add a bit of grease before installing it. But, if someone were to put their whole body weight on it, of course, it might get damaged (along with the internals)

3. We have not seen the "neutral light effect" on ours, which is slightly biased to the rear if anything, even with the bend in the middle. It's pretty light, about the same weight as the new one at less than 0.5 lbs total. we've been slamming it around whoops and ruts and hills and bumps pretty hard, and it does not move enough to invoke the neutral light or make any sort of noise.

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Re: New product announcement and call for opinions - Single Piece Extended Reverse Hand Shift lever

Post by HemisphereOffroad » Tue Jan 08, 2019 12:37 am

This is the alternative we were looking at. This can be made more cost-effectively, but what about the look / aesthetics?

Would this be acceptable? Would still be aluminum with an aluminum knob, all black anodized.The rod would need to be thicker / larger diameter which would increase the weight by an ounce or so.

What's your vote? Does it look too cheap?
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Re: New product announcement and call for opinions - Single Piece Extended Reverse Hand Shift lever

Post by S 854 » Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:03 am

I’m in the form-follows-function crowd...

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Re: New product announcement and call for opinions - Single Piece Extended Reverse Hand Shift lever

Post by stagewex » Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:01 pm

It's a metal stick with a knob. Make it work first and then make it pretty.

Last Summer at Rhinebeck (that will be the last Rhinebeck Vintage Bike gathering BTW) on my way out of the show grounds I saw a most beautiful and sexy Vincent parked. What intrigued me the most was the addition or maybe it wasn't, of a hand shift or at least as you see from the pictures, a hand-shifter assist.

I waited around for a long time so I could ask the owner questions. I didn't know if it was because of some disability or convenience. Either way it was very cool and top-of-the-line machining and finish. As was the bike itself.

Keep in mind as a British motorcycle the shifting is done on the left side. But it's kinda the same idea being proposed & designed.

Wish I knew more about it.
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It's not just the stick with a knob. See the linkage!
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Re: New product announcement and call for opinions - Single Piece Extended Reverse Hand Shift lever

Post by HemisphereOffroad » Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:06 pm

Very cool, Stagewex! That's a great reference design. Thanks for sharing!

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Re: New product announcement and call for opinions - Single Piece Extended Reverse Hand Shift lever

Post by codemonkey001 » Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:28 pm

Oh fine, I finally get comfortable with leaning down to get at the shifter and you guys go and come up with what sounds like a better product. I'll get a photo of my 2007 posted tomorrow.
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Re: New product announcement and call for opinions - Single Piece Extended Reverse Hand Shift lever

Post by jaybird » Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:30 pm

stagewex wrote:
Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:01 pm
It's a metal stick with a knob. Make it work first and then make it pretty.

Last Summer at Rhinebeck (that will be the last Rhinebeck Vintage Bike gathering BTW) on my way out of the show grounds I saw a most beautiful and sexy Vincent parked. What intrigued me the most was the addition or maybe it wasn't, of a hand shift or at least as you see from the pictures, a hand-shifter assist.

I waited around for a long time so I could ask the owner questions. I didn't know if it was because of some disability or convenience. Either way it was very cool and top-of-the-line machining and finish. As was the bike itself.

Keep in mind as a British motorcycle the shifting is done on the left side. But it's kinda the same idea being proposed & designed.

Wish I knew more about it.
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It's not just the stick with a knob. See the linkage!
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It looks like an assist for the center stand.

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Re: New product announcement and call for opinions - Single Piece Extended Reverse Hand Shift lever

Post by jaybird » Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:49 pm

Wish I knew more about it.
Read this through, might be a good product for hemisphere to produce for the Ural.
http://motorivista.com/black-shadow/

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Re: New product announcement and call for opinions - Single Piece Extended Reverse Hand Shift lever

Post by Tomcatfixer » Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:00 am

Man, a hand-operated center stand, or heck, just a clamp-on centerstand tang that would allow you to avoid reaching under the hot muffler would be a great product.

Regarding the cable attached to that Vincent's shift pedal - it probably connects to the ignition to cut spark for clutchless upshifts.
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Re: New product announcement and call for opinions - Single Piece Extended Reverse Hand Shift lever

Post by Claus » Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:43 am

Chad, it´s a HRD Vincent. Foot brake lever on left side...
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Re: New product announcement and call for opinions - Single Piece Extended Reverse Hand Shift lever

Post by Tomcatfixer » Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:56 am

Chad, it´s a HRD Vincent. Foot brake lever on left side...
Oh! Brake light switch?
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Re: New product announcement and call for opinions - Single Piece Extended Reverse Hand Shift lever

Post by S 854 » Thu Jan 10, 2019 10:08 am

Claus wrote:
Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:43 am
Chad, it´s a HRD Vincent. Foot brake lever on left side...
“The foot shift is on the right side-which is the wrong side... as opposed to the left side—which is the right side...”

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