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internal thread spec for handlebar

Post by ikeorbit » Fri Nov 01, 2019 11:09 am

Hello!

I am looking for the internal thread spec for a standard Ural handlebar. Is it 6mm or 8mm? Need to know so I can order hand guards and I would like to get the single point - bar end - installation system.

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Re: internal thread spec for handlebar

Post by GHGoodwin » Sat Nov 02, 2019 7:28 am

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Re: internal thread spec for handlebar

Post by Tomcatfixer » Sat Nov 02, 2019 10:44 am

The handlebar is internally unthreaded from the factory. Are you asking for the internal diameter, so that you can cut your own threads?
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Re: internal thread spec for handlebar

Post by Mr Wazzock » Sat Nov 02, 2019 11:54 am

Handlebar is just a rough plain steel tube. No inserts with threaded holes. I'm assuming 2019 Urals same as mine here. (2016) If so you will need the type of bar ends that include a spreader type insert to go into the end of the tube. Problem then is, the steel wall is thicker than most other 'bars, so, albeit it's 7/8" on the outside, the inside dia. is slightly smaller than what bar ends for 7/8" 'bars will fit into. Also, the inside edges are burred up and need dressing with a round file until the (reduced diameter) bar end can go in. Guess how I know! :o

I still had to get them turned down a bit to fit in the tube. Here they are with cheap plastic 'guards off eBay. They did not belong together, the weights are separate items, solid steel, but could be made to fit the 'guards (which came with plastic bar ends in lieu of).

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Here the plugs in the handebar ends are rubber sleeves that are compressed by the Allen screw in the outer end, and a skirted nut on the inside, the sleeves then expand to grip the inside of the tube. Oh and, it helps if the Allen screw and nut are stainless so it doesn't all rust up soild.
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Post by snowymonkey » Sun Nov 03, 2019 9:15 am

Hey Wazz, got a link to those hand guards? Don’t wanna get ones that end up being too small.... I’ve already played that game :roll:
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Re: internal thread spec for handlebar

Post by Mr Wazzock » Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:19 pm

Here ya go...

Bar ends https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Motorcycle-H ... 33f1b528e7

Guards https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2x-7-8-22mm- ... 3d92178bfe

Not sure how these links will work for the US. (?)

Please note I had to get quite "creative" to make these parts fit. As I said earlier, the 'guards fit onto the ends of the metal bar ends. This needed longer Allen screws for them, 80mm or somesuch. The inboard brackets of the guards use the handlebar lever pivot screws, so I had to get creative there with alternatives. The brake pivot needed a 8mm OD x 6mm ID steel tube (because the original screw is stepped, is plain 8mm shaft then M6 threaded stud on the bottom), then a M6 Allen screw down thru that. Clutch side is just a M6 Allen, BUT get one with a plain shank that the lever can pivot on, instead of the thread! This means getting something longer and cutting down to size. All stainless.
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Re: internal thread spec for handlebar

Post by Lmo » Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:56 pm

Not sure how these links will work for the US. (?)
www. the first 'w' stands for WORLD. :wink: they work fine.
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Re: internal thread spec for handlebar

Post by snowymonkey » Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:01 pm

Mr Wazzock wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:19 pm
Here ya go...

Bar ends https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Motorcycle-H ... 33f1b528e7

Guards https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2x-7-8-22mm- ... 3d92178bfe

Not sure how these links will work for the US. (?)

Please note I had to get quite "creative" to make these parts fit. As I said earlier, the 'guards fit onto the ends of the metal bar ends. This needed longer Allen screws for them, 80mm or somesuch. The inboard brackets of the guards use the handlebar lever pivot screws, so I had to get creative there with alternatives. The brake pivot needed a 8mm OD x 6mm ID steel tube (because the original screw is stepped, is plain 8mm shaft then M6 threaded stud on the bottom), then a M6 Allen screw down thru that. Clutch side is just a M6 Allen, BUT get one with a plain shank that the lever can pivot on, instead of the thread! This means getting something longer and cutting down to size. All stainless.

Thanks :cheers:
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Re: internal thread spec for handlebar

Post by Geno89074 » Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:05 pm

Mr Wazzock wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 1:19 pm


Please note I had to get quite "creative" to make these parts fit. As I said earlier, the 'guards fit onto the ends of the metal bar ends. This needed longer Allen screws for them, 80mm or somesuch. The inboard brackets of the guards use the handlebar lever pivot screws, so I had to get creative there with alternatives. The brake pivot needed a 8mm OD x 6mm ID steel tube (because the original screw is stepped, is plain 8mm shaft then M6 threaded stud on the bottom), then a M6 Allen screw down thru that. Clutch side is just a M6 Allen, BUT get one with a plain shank that the lever can pivot on, instead of the thread! This means getting something longer and cutting down to size. All stainless.
Very Nice Handguards Mr Wazzock & also hats off to you for such a creative mounting solution!!
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Re: internal thread spec for handlebar

Post by Mr Wazzock » Mon Nov 04, 2019 12:30 pm

Lmo wrote:
Sun Nov 03, 2019 3:56 pm
Not sure how these links will work for the US. (?)
www. the first 'w' stands for WORLD. :wink: they work fine.
Bad choice of phrase. What I meant was, whether you'd be allowed to purchase
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Re: internal thread spec for handlebar

Post by Lmo » Mon Nov 04, 2019 1:26 pm

F2 is the only unwilling seller I've encountered, so far; apparently too many regs to deal with when shipping Stateside/Canada. :(
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Post by Claus » Mon Nov 04, 2019 2:08 pm

It takes you hours. The regs are a real PITA if you´re not really used to them and don´t do it regularly.
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Re: internal thread spec for handlebar

Post by Mr Wazzock » Tue Nov 05, 2019 1:41 pm

I used to sell electrical transformers online, for tube amps, so basically, big lumps of steel and copper wire. Shipping costs got so stupid US and Canada stopped buying them! :o
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