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Re: 2 Into 1 Installation

Post by Happytrails » Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:43 pm

dogboy443 wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:08 pm
Did you buy just the header pipes or did you buy the muffler package too? I like the idea of running exhaust on the right to clear the left side. I've seen headers on eBay at a better price but not for a 750CC, only 650cc's.
Hows come you want to run it out the right side?
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Re: 2 Into 1 Installation

Post by rivers » Wed Oct 03, 2018 6:07 pm

"High right" is out of the way that allows for simpler wheel removal and keeps the can front getting damaged-torn off in case of an off pavement oopsie.
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Re: 2 Into 1 Installation

Post by Tomcatfixer » Wed Oct 03, 2018 6:31 pm

I'm in the market for a 2-into-1 right side low exit header so I'll finally be able to ride (more) aggressively without constantly knocking my left pontoon off, to make wheel removal easier, to eliminate a little weight, and to shift power delivery around a bit. I desire the low exit because I want the muffler as far from my wife's left ear as I can get it, while still enjoying the advantages of not having a left muffler.
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Re: 2 Into 1 Installation

Post by rivers » Wed Oct 03, 2018 6:47 pm

Chad, Raceways offers a 2 into 1 "low right" system for flange mount 750's. Only difference between hi/low is the plumbing aft of the header. So far as I know Raceway is the only retail after market 2 into 1 builder but also wholesales to other dealers so what you're looking for IS avail.
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Re: 2 Into 1 Installation

Post by Tomcatfixer » Wed Oct 03, 2018 8:00 pm

Chad, Raceways offers a 2 into 1 "low right" system for flange mount 750's. Only difference between hi/low is the plumbing aft of the header. So far as I know Raceway is the only retail after market 2 into 1 builder but also wholesales to other dealers so what you're looking for IS avail.
Yeah, I know. I don't weld (yet), so once I tire of waving money in front of welders to entice them into fabricating an equal-length 2-into-1 header for me, I'll probably "settle" for a Raceway product.
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Re: 2 Into 1 Installation

Post by dogboy443 » Wed Oct 03, 2018 8:48 pm

Happytrails wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 5:43 pm
dogboy443 wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:08 pm
Did you buy just the header pipes or did you buy the muffler package too? I like the idea of running exhaust on the right to clear the left side. I've seen headers on eBay at a better price but not for a 750CC, only 650cc's.
Hows come you want to run it out the right side?
I want to set up a foot box on the left for my big size 13 feet and the muffler will get in the way. And if I can set up a 2 into 1, then I can add on the oil filter adaptor and have clearance with the crossover pipe gone.
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Re: 2 Into 1 Installation

Post by Happytrails » Wed Oct 03, 2018 8:52 pm

rivers wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 6:07 pm
"High right" is out of the way that allows for simpler wheel removal and keeps the can front getting damaged-torn off in case of an off pavement oopsie.
Tomcatfixer wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 6:31 pm
I'm in the market for a 2-into-1 right side low exit header so I'll finally be able to ride (more) aggressively without constantly knocking my left pontoon off, to make wheel removal easier, to eliminate a little weight, and to shift power delivery around a bit. I desire the low exit because I want the muffler as far from my wife's left ear as I can get it, while still enjoying the advantages of not having a left muffler.
dogboy443 wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 8:48 pm
I want to set up a foot box on the left for my big size 13 feet and the muffler will get in the way. And if I can set up a 2 into 1, then I can add on the oil filter adaptor and have clearance with the crossover pipe gone.


Thanks for explaining that. Hadn't even considered those things. Was thinking high left mount for appearance and clearance. But now have those things to consider :)
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Re: 2 Into 1 Installation

Post by rivers » Wed Oct 03, 2018 9:02 pm

Tomcatfixer wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 8:00 pm
Chad, Raceways offers a 2 into 1 "low right" system for flange mount 750's. Only difference between hi/low is the plumbing aft of the header. So far as I know Raceway is the only retail after market 2 into 1 builder but also wholesales to other dealers so what you're looking for IS avail.
Yeah, I know. I don't weld (yet), so once I tire of waving money in front of welders to entice them into fabricating an equal-length 2-into-1 header for me, I'll probably "settle" for a Raceway product.
Chad, wrong plan. Don't wave your money at a welder. Wave it at a pro tubing bender that has the equip/mandrels to do the bends. A welder's (preferably tig) only option to weld a large bend is to weld LOTSA short pieces(and ugly) to get where you/he want to go. Sure doable but serious labor/time consuming read: expensive route. :(
No way saying you shouldn't learn to weld yourself, but welders aren't end-all magic fabricators if $$ are a consideration. :( It's unlikely a local/commercial/common tubing bender like the local muffler shop will have the dies to bend 1.5" tubing but he will prolly know of someone that does have the equip to custom bend small tubing? Paying a pro to bend the big loops is cheaper than paying a tig welder to fudge/stick a buncha bitsa's together. Expand your options beyond the weld shop. ;)
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Re: 2 Into 1 Installation

Post by Lmo » Wed Oct 03, 2018 10:34 pm

Or order up a "bend" kit from someone like https://www.dimecitycycles.com/vintage- ... 04-uv.html
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Re: 2 Into 1 Installation

Post by eastbloc » Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:14 am

Whatever you guys figure out, I'm interested.

My Raceway headers shed all their powdercoat and replaced it with rust over one season. Kudos to Raceway for finding a way to prepare and finish metal that makes Russian products look good by comparison.

Despite being time-consuming, my attempts to strip and repaint using POR did not yield any better results. They're off again while I contemplate getting them sent out to get ceramic coated as a last resort.
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Re: 2 Into 1 Installation

Post by BriSco » Thu Oct 04, 2018 12:29 am

I just put the Raceway 2 into 1 header on my 2011 Patrol recently. I had to replace the studs, as the originals were too short, especially with the provided thick gaskets. The left two both broke off flush. That was after lots of penetrating oil and heating the head with a heat gun at the suggestion of Raceway. The original studs are very soft. I ended up using helicoil to repair.

I also went the the low right muffler. I did have a pipe made for high right, but ditched it because it was too noisy.

I posted pics of my install in Modifications:

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Re: 2 Into 1 Installation

Post by eastbloc » Thu Oct 04, 2018 11:54 pm

For what it's worth, my 2014 runs much better with 2-into-1. Since reverting to OEM to deal with the rusty headers, my bike takes longer to warm up and spends more time stumbling off idle, and causingt me to prefer the 650 for local trips around town.
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Re: 2 Into 1 Installation

Post by Buckhorn » Mon Oct 22, 2018 10:40 am

I like my Raceway 2 into 1 right side high exit exhaust, on my 2013. I got it when they had a sale around Christmas time a few years ago. They forgot to send the gaskets with the pipes, and there were no plugs for the O2 sensor holes. I called them and they sent them to me. The cross over pipe has clearance to remove and install the original style oil filter. The end of the muffler is back far enough not to bother a passenger.
I never ended up using the new studs or gaskets. The old gaskets were in good shape, so I reinstalled them using some red high temp RTV. Also used the RTV with the O2 sensor plugs. The old acorn nuts were a little rusty, so I picked up some stainless ones at Home Depot.
I believe I posted a video on this site showing the exhaust with the bike running.
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Re: 2 Into 1 Installation

Post by dogboy443 » Mon Oct 22, 2018 12:22 pm

Happytrails wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 8:52 pm
rivers wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 6:07 pm
"High right" is out of the way that allows for simpler wheel removal and keeps the can front getting damaged-torn off in case of an off pavement oopsie.
Tomcatfixer wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 6:31 pm
I'm in the market for a 2-into-1 right side low exit header so I'll finally be able to ride (more) aggressively without constantly knocking my left pontoon off, to make wheel removal easier, to eliminate a little weight, and to shift power delivery around a bit. I desire the low exit because I want the muffler as far from my wife's left ear as I can get it, while still enjoying the advantages of not having a left muffler.
dogboy443 wrote:
Wed Oct 03, 2018 8:48 pm
I want to set up a foot box on the left for my big size 13 feet and the muffler will get in the way. And if I can set up a 2 into 1, then I can add on the oil filter adaptor and have clearance with the crossover pipe gone.


Thanks for explaining that. Hadn't even considered those things. Was thinking high left mount for appearance and clearance. But now have those things to consider :)
I also don't want to run a right side hi muffler because my wife would kill me about having the muffler that much higher to her ear. Plus I run saddle bags on both sides so then I run into the issue of clearance.
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Re: 2 Into 1 Installation

Post by keetmanaa » Sat Nov 03, 2018 5:22 pm

I finally got around to installing my 2 into 1 high right side exhaust. I didn't have to remove/replace the original studs on my '15 GU. Everything went on smoothly and I'm pleased with the result. We'll see over time how it stands up but at the very least I won't have to wack the left pontoon back on when boon-docking.
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