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newbie questions

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 4:23 pm
by thecrumb
Coming up on the big 50 and thinking of buying a Ural for my mid-life crisis.

Been riding 2 wheels forever and just looking for something different. Comfortable wrenching on something. And as long as the riding > wrenching, I'm good.

I'm mainly looking at this to commute to work and for the occasional trip the nearby mountains (I'm in central NC). Not interested in long highway jaunts or off-roading anywhere. :)

A few stupid questions...

1) How much space is in the 'trunk'? Can I stuff a helmet and Aerostich in there??
2) What kind of range do you get on a tank? I know you can slap on extra can but curious stock what to expect? 100mi? 200mi??
3) Are the Step classes worthwhile? The closest one to me is in Asheville which is a 3 hour trip for me...

Thanks!
Jim

Re: newbie questions

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 4:41 pm
by bgenest
thecrumb,

I'm new here also but here are my $.02, and welcome:

1. 2.9 square feet. No problem with getting a couple of helmets in the trunk... with a little room to spare;
2. about 150 plus miles to you get to reserve +- depending on how you ride;
3. It's a whole new riding experience. I don't have many miles on my Ural but I have been riding for about 50 years. After the first 10 miles I went home and signed up for the classes. Google evergreen 3 wheel training. And get "The Yellow Book'.

PS I bought mine as a retirement gift to myself.

Re: newbie questions

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 4:46 pm
by rivers
If the trunk just has in it what came with the bike, I would think you could stuff a stich and a helmet in there . I can't but it's full of tools and other stuff. Forget a 200 "mile" range w/o a gas can. I usually fill my tank at 200 "km" but it's not empty. On my pre EFI Urals I start looking for a gas station at 150 km. Headwinds, speed, grades, riding style state of tune etc are all critical to fuel consumption. Regardless of brand/model ALL sidecar outfits burn more fuel than a comparable 2 wheeler(easy 30% more).If your goal is a fuel sipping commuter, stick with a 2 wheeler or an econobox little car.

Re: newbie questions

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 5:36 pm
by LRP
Figure 30mpg in your area. Trunk will easily hold a full face and an Aerostich.

We go to Cherokee every year in Oct. to ride the Park roads and the Blueridge. I've ridden the Smoky's on a Suzuki, a Kaw Voyager XII,
a Guzzi EV11, but the Ural is the most fun, not to mention not having to horse a heavy bike around on a slanting parking area.

LRP

Dick

Re: newbie questions

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 6:17 pm
by scan
-I fit 2 size small open face helmets with two tool bags. The trunk is huge compared to any other bike and tiny to a car :)
-The most I will go is about 180 - 200 km (if your new to the bike that's the odometer even for state side bikes) about 120 ish miles on a tank.
-Since you know how to ride a bike I think an empty parking lot and a lot of patience is all you need. I drove around with 80 lbs of sand in the side car for a month before I was comfortable.

Re: newbie questions

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 6:49 pm
by wooden nickel
I rode my first Ural for almost a year before a class finally came within 100 miles of me. I still learned plenty and Ural reimbursed me for the class. I had a 2 day class so the motel bill was mine and I got soaked in the rain 2 1/2 hours both ways but it was still worthwhile.
If you can't get to a class do the exercises in the yellow book as close as you can and get someone to help you with maximum braking effort exercises. Finding the point just short of lockup is handy info.

Re: newbie questions

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 7:16 pm
by lpenney
My advice, make the drive and take the class. I drove about 4.5 hours away to take the course. I got to ride a Ural for the two days of the class and came out even more convinced I wanted one. But, it is different enough from two wheels that it is good to make sure it's what you want before you part with the $$$.

Re: newbie questions

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 7:21 pm
by thecrumb
Thanks all for the info - not looking to save gas - just curious. I have a few friends who ride and it's always the least common denominator on who has to stop for gas first. I've usually ridden GS's and KLRs so that's never me :)

lpenny - that's a great idea - I'll check and see if that class provides bikes to ride. I'd be willing to pay a few bucks to try one out and learn something at the same time.

Off to find this yellow book :)

Jim

Re: newbie questions

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 7:50 pm
by rivers
thecrumb wrote: lpenny - that's a great idea - I'll check and see if that class provides bikes to ride. I'd be willing to pay a few bucks to try one out and learn something at the same time.

Off to find this yellow book :)

Jim

Jim, even if your STEP class doesn't have Urals, mine didn't, the class is worth taking. You'll get a feel for the quirks of all sidecar outfits regardless of brand and you'll learn A LOT of survival skills. The Yellow Book is indeed also worth buying "and using" not just reading. Actual title " Driving a Sidecar Outfit" by David Hough. Cheapest place and an excellent vendor is Whitehorse Press.

Re: newbie questions

Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2016 10:40 pm
by 4Paws
Fair number of Ural riders in NC. I'm outside of Greensboro.
I regularly go 225 km before gassing my Retro up, 250 km is end of my comfort zone.
Danville CC had sidecar training classes and I also found some in several NC locations but not STEP affiliated. For some reason the name Ride NC or Ride Safe is rattling around in my head, if Google doesn't find it for you pm me.
If you're near enough to me to drop by you can check one out and test ride it. CRAP will be in Sanford fairly soon and you can get an education there and also learn about Urals.

Lots of good deals on used biles here.

Re: newbie questions

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2016 9:32 am
by Lee Pape
On the trunk space I can fit eight 6 packs of beer, three "fifths", the factory tool roll. scissors jack, and a couple of 2x4's with a little room left.

Re: newbie questions

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2016 10:02 am
by dneprlover
thecrumb wrote:
Off to find this yellow book :)

Jim


Don't bother.

Google 'Hal Kendal's sidecar guide' and download it for free. The Yellow book owes a lot to that guide and the Sidecar world lost a great man when Hal passed away a few years ago

Re: newbie questions

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2016 12:04 pm
by thecrumb
4Paws wrote:CRAP will be in Sanford fairly soon and you can get an education there and also learn about Urals.
What is "CRAP" :) I'm in the Raleigh area so Sanford is right next door. I've been camping at Willsville a few times when they had a Ural gathering - that is what originally started the itch. Will look into Danville CC - that is much closer than Asheville!

Jim

Re: newbie questions

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2016 3:21 pm
by 4Paws
See upcoming rides section for current CRAP info and ride reports for pictures of past.

Re: newbie questions

Posted: Sat Mar 05, 2016 4:55 pm
by rougaroo
Got to "Upcoming Rides" - CRAP will be the first weekend in May (6th-8th) at the Old Gilliam Mill just west of Sanford. Folks have come from as far away as Canada, Maine, Connecticut, Florida, Kentucky, etc. You'll see more models and farkles than you've even heard of. Just hope you eat meat...

Rougaroo