Enduro seat experience.

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Re: Enduro seat experience.

Post by windmill » Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:32 pm

Maybe a bit late, but a push button quick release thumb nut looks like it would work for the front. When the button is pushed the nut will slide on or off, when released it works like a normal thumb nut.

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Re: Enduro seat experience.

Post by eastbloc » Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:47 pm

That's awesome, and will enable a completely tool-less seat release. Thanks for digging that up.
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Re: Enduro seat experience.

Post by Tomcatfixer » Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:54 pm

A technology of which I was previously unaware!
Is the front stud threaded M8x1.25?
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Re: Enduro seat experience.

Post by eastbloc » Sun Jan 13, 2019 10:06 pm

No, I think it is an M10 like the one in Barry’s link.
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Re: Enduro seat experience.

Post by BinDerSmokDat » Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:19 am

I'm late to this discussion but being 6'5" and over 250lbs a bigger bench seat was one of the things I ordered from Rich Maund the first week I got my bike!
As it was, the tractor seat was unrideable for me.
My natural riding position is somewhere between the stock tractor seat and where the rear rack would be.
Rich Maund's seat was a GODSEND! I even put it in my signature below because it was that game changing for me.

I told him to make the tallest and widest bench seat he dared to make and he did.
It was very comfortable but at that time the only seat pans available were the stepped steel Ural bench pans.
He built up the foam to diminish feeling that hump but after a while the foam broke down and I'd feel it especially on all-day rides.

Off-roading plus my weight took its toll on the steel pan and it started to crack right at the hump.
I went to the Enduro which is almost as good at Rich's seat, the tradeoff being it has no hump, but Rich's was wider and taller, both good for tall riders. When the padding of the Enduro is shot and/or I rip it worse than it now is, I'm going to have Rich duplicate the "Road Sofa" on the Enduro pan. That should truly be the Ultimate Seat.

Bench seats of any type are also a huge plus because they allow you to shift your position more and stretch your legs. You can coot all the way back and lean forward on long straight stretches to give you back a stretch.

Chad, you mentioned the edge of the Enduro seat cutting into the leg, that must be from shorter riders.
With my feet on the controls, the edge doesn't cut into my legs at all. And as I found with the Road Sofa, more width equals more support which means more comfort. That's why Russell Day Long seats are always so ridiculous looking but some of the most comfortable seats you can buy for touring.

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Re: Enduro seat experience.

Post by Tomcatfixer » Wed Jan 16, 2019 11:32 am

Chad, you mentioned the edge of the Enduro seat cutting into the leg, that must be from shorter riders.
With my feet on the controls, the edge doesn't cut into my legs at all. And as I found with the Road Sofa, more width equals more support which means more comfort. That's why Russell Day Long seats are always so ridiculous looking but some of the most comfortable seats you can buy for touring.
Good to know. I have a Russell Day-Long seat on my Honda VFR and it is, hands-down, the most comfortable motorcycle seat upon which I have ever perched. If this enduro seat experiment ends up working out, perhaps I'll ask Rich to work his magic and also give it a nice ribbed look, like this...
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Re: Enduro seat experience.

Post by Tomcatfixer » Wed Jan 16, 2019 6:08 pm

Well, thanks to Penrod, I now have a "try-before-you-buy" Enduro seat installed on the 'Chernobyl. I snapped a couple comparison pics...
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SO, first, let me preface with the fact that, like many folks, I love the look of the dual tractor saddles. I found the rear saddle particularly helpful for temporarily setting things down as I gear-up or -down, plus the rubber loop is a SUPER handy grab-handle for stepping onto the passenger peg for kick-starting and to grab the bike around in neutral.

After the installation of the hockey pucks, I had no issue with around-town comfort. It was only on long rides that my bottom, then knees, began to ache.

Installation was quite simple, though I was mildly annoyed that I had to unbolt my saddle from the mounting plate. I had detached the relays from the plate so, with the removal of the five button-head screws, I could quickly remove the saddle and plate together to access the battery.

Installing the two rear button-head screws under the fender for the Enduro seat with an Allen wrench was simple, but threading the 17mm nut onto the seat stud in the front was a crazy act of finger contortion in which I was certain I would short one of the hot wires to ground. (I didn't) Using a long socket extension and ratchet, I was able to carefully tighten the nut without touching any exposed 12V posts or wires (the starter is RIGHT THERE, as is the + terminal of the battery).

As I mentioned in the photo caption above, I sit noticably lower on the Enduro seat, with the handlebar, windscreen, and knee bend giving clues. Even "scooched-back" a bit, the knee bend still felt a little tighter than it is with the tractor saddle and pucks. I'll have to ride around to see.

SO, my commute to work tomorrow will be the first test. I think I'll make an extended ride attempt this weekend to give a better evaluation.
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2001 Buell Blast! - - - - - - - 2005 Yamaha FJR1300
1993 Honda CBR600F2 - -1984 Yamaha FJ1100
Two different 1986 Yamaha FZX700S Fazers

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Re: Enduro seat experience.

Post by eastbloc » Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:59 pm

Nice!

That front nut issue is an old one. I got into the habit of just hand tightening it back in my 650 days. I know it sounds wacky, but it never got loose on me so I do it to this day.
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Re: Enduro seat experience.

Post by Mr Wazzock » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:10 pm

"Enduro saddle on the same bike: 83cm / 32.68" - about 2" lower"

I'm a different build, so when I was messing with single seats a while back the higher height (grammar?) was a bit of an issue for me. I didn't like being higher having already got used to the Enduro (also I'm a 29" leg seam) hence I was finding ways to make the single saddle same height as the Enduro. Comfort was never the same tho so altho the single seat looked well cool, comfort won in the end and the Enduro went back on. Image
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Re: Enduro seat experience.

Post by Penrod » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:33 pm

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Possibly add the passenger grab handle.
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Re: Enduro seat experience.

Post by Tomcatfixer » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:36 pm

Possibly add the passenger grab handle.
A GREAT suggestion! I had completely forgotten that I have those stored away.
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Re: Enduro seat experience.

Post by Penrod » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:42 pm

Mr Wazzock wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:10 pm
"Enduro saddle on the same bike: 83cm / 32.68" - about 2" lower"

I'm a different build, so when I was messing with single seats a while back the higher height (grammar?) was a bit of an issue for me. I didn't like being higher having already got used to the Enduro (also I'm a 29" leg seam) hence I was finding ways to make the single saddle same height as the Enduro. Comfort was never the same tho so altho the single seat looked well cool, comfort won in the end and the Enduro went back on.
Have you tried the 2/3rds bench? My inseam is 27". The seat is firm but comfortable. I have done 500K days on it.
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Re: Enduro seat experience.

Post by Mr Wazzock » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:43 pm

Tomcatfixer wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:36 pm
Possibly add the passenger grab handle.
A GREAT suggestion! I had completely forgotten that I have those stored away.
Da-da-DA!! :boogie:
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Re: Enduro seat experience.

Post by Mr Wazzock » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:49 pm

Penrod wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:42 pm
Have you tried the 2/3rds bench? My inseam is 27"rps20170417_143745.jpg
TBH no, the project was turning into a money pit and I decided enough was enough. The bike had the Enduro on it when I bought it, and the first time i sat on it it felt right immediately. So I thought that can't be beat really.
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Re: Enduro seat experience.

Post by Penrod » Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:59 pm

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Mr Wazzock wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:49 pm
Penrod wrote:
Wed Jan 16, 2019 8:42 pm
Have you tried the 2/3rds bench? My inseam is 27"rps20170417_143745.jpg
TBH no, the project was turning into a money pit and I decided enough was enough. The bike had the Enduro on it when I bought it, and the first time i sat on it it felt right immediately. So I thought that can't be beat really.
Mine came with the Enduro seat and it was comfortable. I only switched because I liked the closer to solo look of the 2/3rds bench.
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