1960s style Cafe Racer!

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Re: 1960s style Cafe Racer!

Post by 4REICH » Fri Feb 02, 2018 3:33 pm

Nathan41 wrote:Here's a new picture from the side :D
I like what you've done. I have some A10 bars 7/8 risers, levers and a British style throttle and wonder how you managed to adapt the cables to the controls. Do the Amal cables work with the old Russian carbs? Did you merely shorten the outer clutch and brake cables or have custom ones produced
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Re: 1960s style Cafe Racer!

Post by LRP » Fri Feb 02, 2018 4:11 pm

Looks good and just as likely to do the "ton" as an India Enfield.
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Re: 1960s style Cafe Racer!

Post by hotflash44 » Sat Feb 03, 2018 9:24 am

You know i have had several bikes with the low road race type bars, back in the 60s American riders didn't like them they were for Euro bikes, with twisty roads they would say and hard on the back. But i found my bikes very comfortable even on long rides, i think the leaning forward distributes the riders weight better unlike American upright style of riding where all your weight is on the Butt /tail bone.IMHO :cheers:
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Re: 1960s style Cafe Racer!

Post by Nathan41 » Sat Feb 03, 2018 5:12 pm

4REICH wrote:
Nathan41 wrote:Here's a new picture from the side :D
I like what you've done. I have some A10 bars 7/8 risers, levers and a British style throttle and wonder how you managed to adapt the cables to the controls. Do the Amal cables work with the old Russian carbs? Did you merely shorten the outer clutch and brake cables or have custom ones produced
Thanks. I used the all the original cables, which I cut about half an inch off the cable's outer sleeves. I had to do it to the throttle and brake cables, the clutch was fine. I used doherty levers which fit the Russian cable's metal sleeve ends nicely. Though, I can't see why some Amal cables wouldn't work, as long as the nipple is the same diameter and you get some nice ferrules to fit. The British ferrules that came with the throttle fit the Russian cables nicely. :cheers:
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Re: 1960s style Cafe Racer!

Post by 4REICH » Sat Feb 03, 2018 5:47 pm

My throttle cables are connected to a chain and absent of a ball end. I believe a different set of Russian bars are in my future because I haven't had much luck in past attempts to solder cable ends
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Re: 1960s style Cafe Racer!

Post by dneprlover » Sun Feb 04, 2018 4:55 am

4REICH wrote:My throttle cables are connected to a chain and absent of a ball end. I believe a different set of Russian bars are in my future because I haven't had much luck in past attempts to solder cable ends
Do you want a guide to soldering ends? I find it quite easy . Soldering, brazing and welding was a big part of my job when I served my apprenticeship and I have always soldered my own cables for the last 50 years. Only had problems in the very early days. Got a system that works well now.
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Re: 1960s style Cafe Racer!

Post by 4REICH » Sun Feb 04, 2018 5:41 am

dneprlover wrote:
Do you want a guide to soldering ends? I find it quite easy . Soldering, brazing and welding was a big part of my job when I served my apprenticeship and I have always soldered my own cables for the last 50 years. Only had problems in the very early days. Got a system that works well now.
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Re: 1960s style Cafe Racer!

Post by dneprlover » Sun Feb 04, 2018 6:22 pm

Ok, don't hold your breath though. I'll put something together in the next couple of weeks and PM you when I've posted it.
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Re: 1960s style Cafe Racer!

Post by 4REICH » Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:32 am

Your knowledge and willingness to share is appreciated, thank you
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Re: 1960s style Cafe Racer!

Post by 4REICH » Wed Jul 08, 2020 2:21 pm

dneprlover wrote:
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4REICH wrote:My throttle cables are connected to a chain and absent of a ball end. I believe a different set of Russian bars are in my future because I haven't had much luck in past attempts to solder cable ends
Do you want a guide to soldering ends? I find it quite easy . Soldering, brazing and welding was a big part of my job when I served my apprenticeship and I have always soldered my own cables for the last 50 years. Only had problems in the very early days. Got a system that works well now.
Hello sir, I hope you are well. I would like your help please. I need instructions/tips how to make throttle cables. A kit has been procured, could you tell me how to put ends on successfully? This would greatly improve my ability to become more self sufficient/ less reliant on shop. I would glad to compensate you via PayPal for your time.
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Re: 1960s style Cafe Racer!

Post by jeffsaline » Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:04 pm

I'm not dneprlover, hope I am not stepping on anyone's toes. I have built a cable or two. Here's what I usually do.

Solder the cable where you are going to cut it. The solder holds the strands together so when you cut it they don't spring apart. Cut the cable. Dress the end of the cable with a file as needed. Put the end on the cable with the countersunk side at the end of the cable. Hold the cable in soft jaws so the end is just proud of the end. Use a steeply pointed center punch putting the point on the center of the cable end. Tap the center punch so it flares the end of the cable and the solder deforms too. This will keep the end from pulling off the cable. Use a soldering iron that is large enough to hold enough heat to heat the end and cable and also melt some solder. Heat the end and the cable should also get hot enough so when you apply just a very small amount of solder it melts. Remove the heat and let the new end cool. Dress as needed with a file. You should be done or at least ready to wish you had put the cable through the sheath before putting the end on the cable. : )

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Re: 1960s style Cafe Racer!

Post by 4REICH » Thu Jul 09, 2020 8:36 am

Thank you, I hung gutters for a living a couple decades ago and still have big irons. Is an electric iron better in this application, also are soder pots unnecessary? What type of soder and flux is best?
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Re: 1960s style Cafe Racer!

Post by Snakeoil » Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:28 am

Nice job. Small change for a big difference in appearance. First Ural I've ever seen that has "attitude".

Yup, clip-ons are nice for the track or for a mean look, but otherwise suck. My buddy has a Paul Smart Ducati. He says when he looks at it, he cannot wait to get on it and when he's on it, he can't wait to get off.
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Re: 1960s style Cafe Racer!

Post by 4REICH » Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:44 am

Snakeoil wrote:
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My buddy has a Paul Smart Ducati. He says when he looks at it, he cannot wait to get on it and when he's on it, he can't wait to get off.
I am breathing life back into a triumph and feel the same way. Some decisions are just plan bad.
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Re: 1960s style Cafe Racer!

Post by Snakeoil » Thu Jul 09, 2020 1:32 pm

That's a prep-unit Tiger. Nice piece to have. As I look at the pic, I see rearsets. Given the distance from the seat, that has to make a Paul Smart feel like a Lazyboy.

When you grow weary of the "choppa", save that engine and tranny and go find a nice featherbed frame and make yourself a Triton. You won't mind the discomfort when you are flogging a Triton thru the twisties.
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