iKon Suspension for Urals

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Re: iKon Suspension for Urals

Post by IkonUSA » Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:13 pm

Hello Randy,
The short chrome spring covers in the pic are purely cosmetic. It can be argued that a full length cover will provide protection to the chrome piston rod from dirt and debris, but when a spring compresses, it never compresses evenly, always 'bulging' on one side. It's very common on fully shrouded shocks to see that the spring has been rubbing on the inside of the cover, often causing a squeaking sound every time the shock compresses. A thin coat of heavy, high tack grease smeared inside the cover helps to keep the squeaks at bay but will require regular application.
For the forthcoming Ikon Cossacks to fit the Ural, if the shocks are ordered with covers, the tri-rate spring will be fitted with the tightly wound coils uppermost under the cover so that there is less coil movement and rubbing and it also gives a cleaner cosmetic look.
Coil orientation on a shock - i.e. closely wound coils uppermost or at the bottom, make no difference to the spring's performance.

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Re: iKon Suspension for Urals

Post by Desantnik-VDV » Thu Oct 24, 2019 7:21 pm

Randy,

Hopefully, you will fix it all and your new shocks will overperform outfit riding/behaving needs.
Keep the old Russian shocks, they are rebuildable.
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Re: iKon Suspension for Urals

Post by MojaveSidecar » Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:21 pm

Hi Rodger.

If one orders the Ikon Cossacks without a spring cover, can they be added at a later date when the shock is rebuilt? e.g by inverting the spring.
Since the short covers appear to be cosmetic only, I am leaning towards going with the black no cover heavy duty.

Are the Ikon Cossacks getting close to being "soup yet". My application would be all 5 shocks, black heavy duty springs, no covers for a 06 GearUP.
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Re: iKon Suspension for Urals

Post by Snakeoil » Thu Nov 07, 2019 6:31 pm

I probably should wait for Roger to answer, but with year end coming, he might be a very busy boy. Shock spring covers as a general rule are nothing more than a sheetmetal shroud that slips over the spring and the spring keepers go thru it and keep everything in place.

If the covers can be purchased at a later date, you could install them if you have the ability to disassemble a shock. Roger has to be very careful in how he communicates shock disassembly to folks due to liability reasons. I fully understand that. But I have taken these shocks apart with a simple fixture I made from PVC pipe and my hydraulic press. As long as you are aware that a compressed spring has no conscience and can do nasty things to those unaware, disassembling shocks is pretty easy stuff.

Personally, I prefer the iKons without shock covers on a Ural. Gives it a more business-like appearance. But each to his own.
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Re: iKon Suspension for Urals

Post by Lmo » Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:29 pm

Personally, I prefer the iKons without shock covers on a Ural. Gives it a more business-like appearance. But each to his own.
You can always go military retro and fit dirt covers when you need them.

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Re: iKon Suspension for Urals

Post by MojaveSidecar » Sat Nov 09, 2019 8:42 pm

Lmo wrote:
Sat Nov 09, 2019 12:29 pm
Personally, I prefer the iKons without shock covers on a Ural. Gives it a more business-like appearance. But each to his own.
You can always go military retro and fit dirt covers when you need them.

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Re: iKon Suspension for Urals

Post by IkonUSA » Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:40 pm

The upper spring shock covers can be retro fitted but as Snakeoil correctly says, you'll need specialist equipment to safely compress the spring, remove the upper spring seat and remove the spring before fitting the cover then reversing the process.
MSRP of the covers (available individually) will be set at $25 ea. The Ikon factory in Australia is making a batch of them specifically for Ural sales.

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Re: iKon Suspension for Urals

Post by MojaveSidecar » Mon Dec 09, 2019 6:22 pm

Any chance a set of these shocks for my 06' GearUp could make it under my Christmas Tree this year?

:-D :pot:
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Re: iKon Suspension for Urals

Post by IkonUSA » Mon Dec 09, 2019 11:22 pm

Sadly not by this Christmas; launching early in the new year. The Ikon factory in Australia is having a bumper year, so finding available production time for the Ikon Cossacks production has been challenging I'm reliably told. Thanks for your patience.

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Re: iKon Suspension for Urals

Post by MojaveSidecar » Mon Jan 13, 2020 4:01 pm

Any chance I could get a set of these shocks for an 06 GearUp for my wife for Valentine's Day?

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Re: iKon Suspension for Urals

Post by IkonUSA » Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:00 pm

I was discussing the Ural Cossack supply with Ikon just yesterday. Although located in NSW Australia with the bush fires less than 50 miles away, Ikon's town of North Albury is not in any direct fire path I'm told. So although understandably cautious, unless the flames can burn a sprawling concrete industrial estate, all should be well.
Delivery for Valentine's day? Well, I should hope so. This forum will be the first to know as soon as the first major shipment arrives.

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