iKon Suspension for Urals
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- Comrade Colonel
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Re: iKon Suspension for Urals
Great News Rodger
What is the chance you could offer unchromed/unfinished spring covers as an option the could be painted/power coded by the customer to color match our urals?
What is the chance you could offer unchromed/unfinished spring covers as an option the could be painted/power coded by the customer to color match our urals?
Randy
06 GearUp Forest Camo
00 DRZ441 - E plated, Nova Wide Ratio Gear Set, Moto-Mule Trailer
01 DRZ400 - E green sticker
01 KLR/DMC Enduro Sidecar (sold)
11 GearUp Gobi (sold)
Looking for a Ural ST solo to add to the stable.
06 GearUp Forest Camo
00 DRZ441 - E plated, Nova Wide Ratio Gear Set, Moto-Mule Trailer
01 DRZ400 - E green sticker
01 KLR/DMC Enduro Sidecar (sold)
11 GearUp Gobi (sold)
Looking for a Ural ST solo to add to the stable.
Re: iKon Suspension for Urals
While I would have to check with the Ikon factory to give you a definitive answer, I would imagine we'd be in a position to supply the covers in a 'raw' state on a special order basis.
Bear in mind you would require suitable equipment to safely remove the spring from the shock in order to install/remove the cover.
Bear in mind you would require suitable equipment to safely remove the spring from the shock in order to install/remove the cover.
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- Tomcatfixer
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Re: iKon Suspension for Urals
Will you offer an Ikon shock service kit with the tools necessary to facilitate this?Bear in mind you would require suitable equipment to safely remove the spring from the shock in order to install/remove the cover.
- Chad
Gordonsville, Virginia, USA
Current rides:
2015 Ural cT "Mobile Chernobyl", 2001 Ural Patrol "The Patrol", 1999 Ural Tourist "The RPOC", 1994 Honda VFR750F
Previous rides:
2007 Honda VTR1000 FireStorm (Super Hawk in U.S.)
2001 Buell Blast! - - - - - - - 2005 Yamaha FJR1300
1993 Honda CBR600F2 - -1984 Yamaha FJ1100
Two different 1986 Yamaha FZX700S Fazers
Gordonsville, Virginia, USA
Current rides:
2015 Ural cT "Mobile Chernobyl", 2001 Ural Patrol "The Patrol", 1999 Ural Tourist "The RPOC", 1994 Honda VFR750F
Previous rides:
2007 Honda VTR1000 FireStorm (Super Hawk in U.S.)
2001 Buell Blast! - - - - - - - 2005 Yamaha FJR1300
1993 Honda CBR600F2 - -1984 Yamaha FJ1100
Two different 1986 Yamaha FZX700S Fazers
Re: iKon Suspension for Urals
There are some proprietary motorcycle spring compressors available from several online sources (not Ikon) which retail for about USD $40/pr.
Automotive (car) spring compressors are designed for much larger diameter springs so will not work safely without the risk of the 'claw' slipping. Remember, spring coils are at an angle, not parallel to the upper and lower shock mounts,so the risk of slippage with any claw type spring compressor is always present.
Everyone should be cautious when compressing a spring for removal from a shock. A compressed spring is like a bomb and should be handled as such.
I continue to see highly innovative and usually highly dangerous methods online for spring removal. I've found that most bike shops in the US and the UK do not have suitable equipment for spring removal, so it's often better to take your shocks to an engineering shop who can use a hydraulic press with suitable fixtures to compress the spring.
Automotive (car) spring compressors are designed for much larger diameter springs so will not work safely without the risk of the 'claw' slipping. Remember, spring coils are at an angle, not parallel to the upper and lower shock mounts,so the risk of slippage with any claw type spring compressor is always present.
Everyone should be cautious when compressing a spring for removal from a shock. A compressed spring is like a bomb and should be handled as such.
I continue to see highly innovative and usually highly dangerous methods online for spring removal. I've found that most bike shops in the US and the UK do not have suitable equipment for spring removal, so it's often better to take your shocks to an engineering shop who can use a hydraulic press with suitable fixtures to compress the spring.
- Tomcatfixer
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Re: iKon Suspension for Urals
Disappointing, as most of the Ural can be serviced with basic tools.
I'm sure this innovative community will devise a means to safely service Ikon shocks in the comfort of our own homes, as well.
I'm sure this innovative community will devise a means to safely service Ikon shocks in the comfort of our own homes, as well.
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- Chad
Gordonsville, Virginia, USA
Current rides:
2015 Ural cT "Mobile Chernobyl", 2001 Ural Patrol "The Patrol", 1999 Ural Tourist "The RPOC", 1994 Honda VFR750F
Previous rides:
2007 Honda VTR1000 FireStorm (Super Hawk in U.S.)
2001 Buell Blast! - - - - - - - 2005 Yamaha FJR1300
1993 Honda CBR600F2 - -1984 Yamaha FJ1100
Two different 1986 Yamaha FZX700S Fazers
Gordonsville, Virginia, USA
Current rides:
2015 Ural cT "Mobile Chernobyl", 2001 Ural Patrol "The Patrol", 1999 Ural Tourist "The RPOC", 1994 Honda VFR750F
Previous rides:
2007 Honda VTR1000 FireStorm (Super Hawk in U.S.)
2001 Buell Blast! - - - - - - - 2005 Yamaha FJR1300
1993 Honda CBR600F2 - -1984 Yamaha FJ1100
Two different 1986 Yamaha FZX700S Fazers
Re: iKon Suspension for Urals
Sending 15 eh? Bet those don't last long.
For "highway comfort" (I'll pause while everyone finishes laughing) ... I suspect the regular springs not the HD would be desirable.
For "highway comfort" (I'll pause while everyone finishes laughing) ... I suspect the regular springs not the HD would be desirable.
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2017 - cT - "Georgia" My wife's rig.
2017 - M70/Retro, Sigmund. My wife's other rig.
Robert
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2017 - cT - "Georgia" My wife's rig.
2017 - M70/Retro, Sigmund. My wife's other rig.
Robert
http://HabitatForBats.org - Give a bat a home!
- Tomcatfixer
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Re: iKon Suspension for Urals
That's gonna depend upon how much additional mass you've bolted on to your rig and how big of a dinner you had. The Massive Mobile Chernobyl would require the higher rate springs, based upon how undersprung it was when I tested the prototypes with the standard springs installed.For "highway comfort" (I'll pause while everyone finishes laughing) ... I suspect the regular springs not the HD would be desirable.
I would like to add, though, that even undersprung, the damping was noticable superior to the Sachs shocks.
- Chad
Gordonsville, Virginia, USA
Current rides:
2015 Ural cT "Mobile Chernobyl", 2001 Ural Patrol "The Patrol", 1999 Ural Tourist "The RPOC", 1994 Honda VFR750F
Previous rides:
2007 Honda VTR1000 FireStorm (Super Hawk in U.S.)
2001 Buell Blast! - - - - - - - 2005 Yamaha FJR1300
1993 Honda CBR600F2 - -1984 Yamaha FJ1100
Two different 1986 Yamaha FZX700S Fazers
Gordonsville, Virginia, USA
Current rides:
2015 Ural cT "Mobile Chernobyl", 2001 Ural Patrol "The Patrol", 1999 Ural Tourist "The RPOC", 1994 Honda VFR750F
Previous rides:
2007 Honda VTR1000 FireStorm (Super Hawk in U.S.)
2001 Buell Blast! - - - - - - - 2005 Yamaha FJR1300
1993 Honda CBR600F2 - -1984 Yamaha FJ1100
Two different 1986 Yamaha FZX700S Fazers
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Re: iKon Suspension for Urals
Yea if I could knock some of the the excess off my carcass (not my butt oddly enough) I could drop 40 lb load on the machine.
Unfortunately I am still suffering the ravages of PTWS and not sure how long before I return to somewhat normal.
Unfortunately I am still suffering the ravages of PTWS and not sure how long before I return to somewhat normal.
Fear No Gravel
Formerly Owned: ( various rides on others)
Honda 90
2 x CB750K (one a true Japan Model flown to Hawaii by a P3 Orion Sub Patrol Aircraft!)
1 x CB700 SC (RC20 is the actual in house production Model)
1 x R80GS (ok to start with, learned to love it for what it was)
1 x CB450K
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Formerly Owned: ( various rides on others)
Honda 90
2 x CB750K (one a true Japan Model flown to Hawaii by a P3 Orion Sub Patrol Aircraft!)
1 x CB700 SC (RC20 is the actual in house production Model)
1 x R80GS (ok to start with, learned to love it for what it was)
1 x CB450K
1 x 2019 cT Terracotta
Mechanic/Technician/Engineer: Electro Mechanical Systems
Re: iKon Suspension for Urals
It's great to hear there's aftermarket options for suspension. Can't wait to hear the announcement.
Re: iKon Suspension for Urals
Met with Roger today to discuss the new Ikon shocks for Urals. In short, since no one rides a Ural over 40 mph, they scrapped the project. So quit following this thread to improve my odds of grabbing a set... Err, since there won't be any to buy.
Actually, he had all 15 there and I bought them all on the spot! So now you have to deal with me! See, you should have come to the Barber Vintage Motorcycle Festival.
Ok, ok, so maybe I'm exaggerating.
Still looking forward to the 3 or so sets inbound, hoping to snag a set for my wife's cT. We had a good discussion about the mounting and the mechanics of the springs and shocks. Sounds like they are going to be a big improvement over stock.
Actually, he had all 15 there and I bought them all on the spot! So now you have to deal with me! See, you should have come to the Barber Vintage Motorcycle Festival.

Ok, ok, so maybe I'm exaggerating.
Still looking forward to the 3 or so sets inbound, hoping to snag a set for my wife's cT. We had a good discussion about the mounting and the mechanics of the springs and shocks. Sounds like they are going to be a big improvement over stock.
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2017 - cT - "Georgia" My wife's rig.
2017 - M70/Retro, Sigmund. My wife's other rig.
Robert
http://HabitatForBats.org - Give a bat a home!
2017 - cT - "Georgia" My wife's rig.
2017 - M70/Retro, Sigmund. My wife's other rig.
Robert
http://HabitatForBats.org - Give a bat a home!
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Re: iKon Suspension for Urals
Which reminds me, time to strip and rebuild my old shocks...Sounds like they are going to be a big improvement over stock.
Lew Morris
Dnepr w/ '06 Ural Drive Train
C5 Power Arc
125/42 jets
Drilled slides/
.030" shims
1973 BMW R75/5 (original owner)
1947 HD FL (long gone, forever regretful)
Dnepr w/ '06 Ural Drive Train
C5 Power Arc
125/42 jets
Drilled slides/
.030" shims
1973 BMW R75/5 (original owner)
1947 HD FL (long gone, forever regretful)
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Re: iKon Suspension for Urals
Hi Rodger
Hopefully we are getting closer to delivery.
After reading the discussion about the shock spring covers, my question is:
Is there any significant advantage/disadvantages to running the shocks without a spring cover?
TIA
Randy from Wrightwood, CA
Hopefully we are getting closer to delivery.
After reading the discussion about the shock spring covers, my question is:
Is there any significant advantage/disadvantages to running the shocks without a spring cover?
TIA
Randy from Wrightwood, CA
Randy
06 GearUp Forest Camo
00 DRZ441 - E plated, Nova Wide Ratio Gear Set, Moto-Mule Trailer
01 DRZ400 - E green sticker
01 KLR/DMC Enduro Sidecar (sold)
11 GearUp Gobi (sold)
Looking for a Ural ST solo to add to the stable.
06 GearUp Forest Camo
00 DRZ441 - E plated, Nova Wide Ratio Gear Set, Moto-Mule Trailer
01 DRZ400 - E green sticker
01 KLR/DMC Enduro Sidecar (sold)
11 GearUp Gobi (sold)
Looking for a Ural ST solo to add to the stable.
- Desantnik-VDV
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Re: iKon Suspension for Urals
Is your bike gong to be ready before this Sunday, so you can make it to the rally?MojaveSidecar wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:19 pmHi Rodger
Hopefully we are getting closer to delivery.
After reading the discussion about the shock spring covers, my question is:
Is there any significant advantage/disadvantages to running the shocks without a spring cover?
TIA
Randy from Wrightwood, CA
Alex
2007 GearUp NOS
The rest is just a History:
2014 Ural M70
1998 Honda f6 GL 1500 Valkyrie Tourer /Champion Escort sidecar
1999 Ural Deco Classic/BMW R100 engine
1980 BMW R100RT (2nd Heart Donor for 1999 Deco for more HP)
1983 BMW R80/7 (1st Heart Donor for 1999 Deco)
2002 Ural Barberian Classic
2003 Honda Shadow ACE
1999 Ural BC (went to US circus in Tokyo to adapt a bear driver)
2007 GearUp NOS
The rest is just a History:
2014 Ural M70
1998 Honda f6 GL 1500 Valkyrie Tourer /Champion Escort sidecar
1999 Ural Deco Classic/BMW R100 engine
1980 BMW R100RT (2nd Heart Donor for 1999 Deco for more HP)
1983 BMW R80/7 (1st Heart Donor for 1999 Deco)
2002 Ural Barberian Classic
2003 Honda Shadow ACE
1999 Ural BC (went to US circus in Tokyo to adapt a bear driver)
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Re: iKon Suspension for Urals
No, it wont be ready until after I receive the shocks.Desantnik-VDV wrote: ↑Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:30 am
Is your bike gong to be ready before this Sunday, so you can make it to the rally?
In a quick change in direction, I sold my road rig, an '11 Gobi to my brother in law in Medford a few months ago and rode it up to deliver it to him.
It ran and handled well, but the eye opener was how much work piloting a rig is on long distance highway trips versus a solo.
My 06 had mostly been sitting for a couple of years but last month we put it on a trailer to take on a trip up to visit my brother in law so we could go Uraling together. It was there I discovered how poorly my 06 rode on the highway compared to the Gobi. Anything over about 40mph was uncomfortable and borderline scary.
So until I get my new shocks , I wont be taking the rig off the hill. Its OK at speeds up to about 35mph around the village but nothing faster.
About the time I get the shocks for the 06, I will install a new clutch, service the driveshafts, install new tires/tires all around, new tonneau cover and a seat rebuild.
Once all this work is completed I should be able to start attending these sidecar events plus host rides up here in Wrightwood.
The unknown in this whole equation is the shipping date on the Ikons.
Randy
06 GearUp Forest Camo
00 DRZ441 - E plated, Nova Wide Ratio Gear Set, Moto-Mule Trailer
01 DRZ400 - E green sticker
01 KLR/DMC Enduro Sidecar (sold)
11 GearUp Gobi (sold)
Looking for a Ural ST solo to add to the stable.
06 GearUp Forest Camo
00 DRZ441 - E plated, Nova Wide Ratio Gear Set, Moto-Mule Trailer
01 DRZ400 - E green sticker
01 KLR/DMC Enduro Sidecar (sold)
11 GearUp Gobi (sold)
Looking for a Ural ST solo to add to the stable.