iKon Suspension for Urals

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Re: iKon Suspension for Urals

Post by MojaveSidecar » Wed Sep 25, 2019 2:54 pm

Great News Rodger

What is the chance you could offer unchromed/unfinished spring covers as an option the could be painted/power coded by the customer to color match our urals?
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Re: iKon Suspension for Urals

Post by IkonUSA » Wed Sep 25, 2019 3:31 pm

While I would have to check with the Ikon factory to give you a definitive answer, I would imagine we'd be in a position to supply the covers in a 'raw' state on a special order basis.
Bear in mind you would require suitable equipment to safely remove the spring from the shock in order to install/remove the cover.
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Re: iKon Suspension for Urals

Post by Tomcatfixer » Wed Sep 25, 2019 4:13 pm

Bear in mind you would require suitable equipment to safely remove the spring from the shock in order to install/remove the cover.
Will you offer an Ikon shock service kit with the tools necessary to facilitate this?
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Re: iKon Suspension for Urals

Post by IkonUSA » Wed Sep 25, 2019 4:42 pm

There are some proprietary motorcycle spring compressors available from several online sources (not Ikon) which retail for about USD $40/pr.
Automotive (car) spring compressors are designed for much larger diameter springs so will not work safely without the risk of the 'claw' slipping. Remember, spring coils are at an angle, not parallel to the upper and lower shock mounts,so the risk of slippage with any claw type spring compressor is always present.
Everyone should be cautious when compressing a spring for removal from a shock. A compressed spring is like a bomb and should be handled as such.
I continue to see highly innovative and usually highly dangerous methods online for spring removal. I've found that most bike shops in the US and the UK do not have suitable equipment for spring removal, so it's often better to take your shocks to an engineering shop who can use a hydraulic press with suitable fixtures to compress the spring.

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Re: iKon Suspension for Urals

Post by Tomcatfixer » Wed Sep 25, 2019 4:54 pm

Disappointing, as most of the Ural can be serviced with basic tools.

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I'm sure this innovative community will devise a means to safely service Ikon shocks in the comfort of our own homes, as well.
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Re: iKon Suspension for Urals

Post by harryball » Wed Sep 25, 2019 5:55 pm

Sending 15 eh? Bet those don't last long.

For "highway comfort" (I'll pause while everyone finishes laughing) ... I suspect the regular springs not the HD would be desirable.
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Re: iKon Suspension for Urals

Post by Tomcatfixer » Wed Sep 25, 2019 6:09 pm

For "highway comfort" (I'll pause while everyone finishes laughing) ... I suspect the regular springs not the HD would be desirable.
That's gonna depend upon how much additional mass you've bolted on to your rig and how big of a dinner you had. The Massive Mobile Chernobyl would require the higher rate springs, based upon how undersprung it was when I tested the prototypes with the standard springs installed.
I would like to add, though, that even undersprung, the damping was noticable superior to the Sachs shocks.
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Re: iKon Suspension for Urals

Post by RC20 » Wed Sep 25, 2019 8:55 pm

Yea if I could knock some of the the excess off my carcass (not my butt oddly enough) I could drop 40 lb load on the machine.

Unfortunately I am still suffering the ravages of PTWS and not sure how long before I return to somewhat normal.
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Re: iKon Suspension for Urals

Post by hiflyrf22 » Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:42 pm

It's great to hear there's aftermarket options for suspension. Can't wait to hear the announcement.

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Re: iKon Suspension for Urals

Post by harryball » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:32 pm

Met with Roger today to discuss the new Ikon shocks for Urals. In short, since no one rides a Ural over 40 mph, they scrapped the project. So quit following this thread to improve my odds of grabbing a set... Err, since there won't be any to buy.
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Actually, he had all 15 there and I bought them all on the spot! So now you have to deal with me! See, you should have come to the Barber Vintage Motorcycle Festival. :D

Ok, ok, so maybe I'm exaggerating.

Still looking forward to the 3 or so sets inbound, hoping to snag a set for my wife's cT. We had a good discussion about the mounting and the mechanics of the springs and shocks. Sounds like they are going to be a big improvement over stock.
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Re: iKon Suspension for Urals

Post by Lmo » Sun Oct 06, 2019 3:41 am

Sounds like they are going to be a big improvement over stock.
Which reminds me, time to strip and rebuild my old shocks...
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Re: iKon Suspension for Urals

Post by MojaveSidecar » Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:19 pm

Hi Rodger
Hopefully we are getting closer to delivery.

After reading the discussion about the shock spring covers, my question is:
Is there any significant advantage/disadvantages to running the shocks without a spring cover?

TIA

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Re: iKon Suspension for Urals

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Re: iKon Suspension for Urals

Post by Desantnik-VDV » Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:30 am

MojaveSidecar wrote:
Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:19 pm
Hi Rodger
Hopefully we are getting closer to delivery.

After reading the discussion about the shock spring covers, my question is:
Is there any significant advantage/disadvantages to running the shocks without a spring cover?

TIA

Randy from Wrightwood, CA
Is your bike gong to be ready before this Sunday, so you can make it to the rally?
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Re: iKon Suspension for Urals

Post by MojaveSidecar » Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:54 pm

Desantnik-VDV wrote:
Thu Oct 24, 2019 12:30 am


Is your bike gong to be ready before this Sunday, so you can make it to the rally?
No, it wont be ready until after I receive the shocks.

In a quick change in direction, I sold my road rig, an '11 Gobi to my brother in law in Medford a few months ago and rode it up to deliver it to him.
It ran and handled well, but the eye opener was how much work piloting a rig is on long distance highway trips versus a solo.

My 06 had mostly been sitting for a couple of years but last month we put it on a trailer to take on a trip up to visit my brother in law so we could go Uraling together. It was there I discovered how poorly my 06 rode on the highway compared to the Gobi. Anything over about 40mph was uncomfortable and borderline scary.

So until I get my new shocks , I wont be taking the rig off the hill. Its OK at speeds up to about 35mph around the village but nothing faster.

About the time I get the shocks for the 06, I will install a new clutch, service the driveshafts, install new tires/tires all around, new tonneau cover and a seat rebuild.

Once all this work is completed I should be able to start attending these sidecar events plus host rides up here in Wrightwood.
The unknown in this whole equation is the shipping date on the Ikons.
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00 DRZ441 - E plated, Nova Wide Ratio Gear Set, Moto-Mule Trailer
01 DRZ400 - E green sticker
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Looking for a Ural ST solo to add to the stable.

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