Thoughts of replacing my cT tank with a BMW type Toaster Tank

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Re: Thoughts of replacing my cT tank with a BMW type Toaster Tank

Post by Dr Z » Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:11 pm

Rob. U nailed it and got way north of my pay grade. Lol. I had a DR650. Looked into bigger tank. They actually make one about 6 or 8 gals I think. As soon as u mentioned elect fuel pump and gas I did shudder briefly. If a guy needs to ride 250 to 300 mi nonstop they need bigger tank or automatic transfer capability For those of us traveling off grid. A can of gas and funnel will work for me
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Re: Thoughts of replacing my cT tank with a BMW type Toaster Tank

Post by jaybird » Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:19 pm

The BMW tanks are to valuable to modify to fit a Ural, I would probably just buy another Ural tank to cut apart and expand.
I don't mind stoping to add fuel from a can, so I carry a gerry can on my gear up. On long road trips I can only ride about an hour before I need to stretch my legs anyway.
My Retro on the other hand, I'm gassing up every day or every other day, and I often push the limits of my tank when trying to make meetings and going about business. I didn't want a gerry can on my retro so at the suggestion of BinDerSmokeDat I bought some of these:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/351929646835?_t ... K%3AMEBIDX%
http://www.ebay.com/itm/232233079911?_t ... EBIDX%3AIT
They come in different capacities and dimensions, small enough to store in the trunk, and maybe just enough fuel to get you to a gas station, in New Jersey anyway.
Thought that might be helpful to someone following this thread.

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Re: Thoughts of replacing my cT tank with a BMW type Toaster Tank

Post by Dr Z » Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:40 pm

Should work. Dealers choice. I guess
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Re: Thoughts of replacing my cT tank with a BMW type Toaster Tank

Post by Tomcatfixer » Thu Apr 13, 2017 8:29 pm

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Re: Thoughts of replacing my cT tank with a BMW type Toaster Tank

Post by GregAus » Thu Apr 13, 2017 9:26 pm

Lmo wrote:That scooter has been around for a while, its name is "Quartermaster" and it was built by (or built for) Icon 1000 as a promo. With the flush filler cap, the tank above looks like a modified BMW R80/R100 tank.

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The Icon tank is from a Suzuki, maybe the GS650G
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Lee Pape wrote:In the 17 years I have been around Urals no one has done it. I don't know have a BMW toaster tanks mounts. I do know that sometime before 2000 Ural did change the way their tanks mount on the bikes. At one time Rich Maund modified a Dneper tank by cutting it apart and welding a spacer in teh middle. I do not remember if he mounted that tank on a Ural or if he had a Dneper at the time. I am not saying that it can't be done just that nobody that I know of has ever done it before.
Richard Maud modified a Chang Jiang M5 tank, they mount the same as a BMW airhead. He basically had to rebuild the front and underside of the tank to make it fit. I thought it looked really good and thought about copying it until I saw how much work was involved. /2 tanks (and Hoske and Heinrich) bolt straight onto pre 99 Urals and all Dneprs. You just need to make a simple bracket to fit them to post 99 Urals. You also need to take out a mortgage to buy one.

There was a seller in the Ukraine who was selling 40 l Dnepr tanks. I bought one several years ago, A$250 including postage. I've seen the /6 and /7 tanks mounted. What they did was graft the underside of a Dnepr tank to the airhead. Looked really good, but a lot of work and money if you don't have the welding skills.
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Re: Thoughts of replacing my cT tank with a BMW type Toaster Tank

Post by Lmo » Thu Apr 13, 2017 9:36 pm

The Icon tank is from a Suzuki, maybe the GS650G
I stand corrected (again)... couldn't see the break lines in side from my screen at work... yeah that's it, I couldn't see the break lines!

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Re: Thoughts of replacing my cT tank with a BMW type Toaster Tank

Post by Burt1713 » Thu Apr 13, 2017 9:37 pm

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If you guys are riding on Rt50 you had better let me know, I'll ride with you for a bit. I live about a mile off of Rt50.
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Re: Thoughts of replacing my cT tank with a BMW type Toaster Tank

Post by Tomcatfixer » Thu Apr 13, 2017 9:40 pm

If you guys are riding on Rt50 you had better let me know, I'll ride with you for a bit. I live about a mile off of Rt50.
Uh oh! Looks like this might become a 'thing'! Matt, hope you get your gas situation resolved, but if we're riding together, just know that I'll need more frequent fuel stops with my tiny OEM tank. :)
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Re: Thoughts of replacing my cT tank with a BMW type Toaster Tank

Post by Lmo » Thu Apr 13, 2017 9:51 pm

So Greg, in your experience... do you think a Dnepr tank would drop onto a Ural frame and vice-versa? Probably subtle differences, but up to a certain year??

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Why? I've been kicking around the idea of fabricating a flat-sided tank, something along the lines below. It would be nice if someone else could use one.
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Re: Thoughts of replacing my cT tank with a BMW type Toaster Tank

Post by Burt1713 » Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:25 pm

You could always use the low fuel indicator sensor to trigger an automatic fuel transfer pump. :lol: :sarcasm: :lol:
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Re: Thoughts of replacing my cT tank with a BMW type Toaster Tank

Post by mattzahr » Fri Apr 14, 2017 10:30 am

ALCON - I am really liking the way this has morphed - Lew, I would be very interested in listening to your thoughts - what capacity tank are you thinking?

Chad/Burt, this Hwy 50/Lincoln Hwy thing won't be a reality for me this year, but I am planting the seed for next year......and the year after, etc. I have a yearning to go see the land of the Albino Squirrel (Olney, IL)....Chad - no need to worry about stops - I have the dream of a 3 hour tank with a 30 minute bladder.....

EDIT Jaybird - that is a great idea - that would work well in STL also - there are some mild dirt roads in Stat Parks near here that are a ways from gas stations.....
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Re: Thoughts of replacing my cT tank with a BMW type Toaster Tank

Post by Mr Wazzock » Fri Apr 14, 2017 10:49 am

As we say in the UK, "it all sounds like too much of a faff" ... :D

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Re: Thoughts of replacing my cT tank with a BMW type Toaster Tank

Post by mattzahr » Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:14 am

My sentiments exactly....as I said in a previous post - I WANT TO GO OUT AND PLAY!!!!

I trust all is well in the UK today?
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Post by Mr Wazzock » Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:20 am

Er, as far as I know yes thanks! :D
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Re: Thoughts of replacing my cT tank with a BMW type Toaster Tank

Post by siberman1 » Fri Apr 14, 2017 11:47 am

Hubert Kriegel on Thetimelessride ( Round The World) had a Ural tank cut apart and then welded in new sections to make it wider and taller. I do not remember the final capacity , but it was gigantic by Ural standards. I think it was around 43 liters or just over 11 gallons. Hubert's Ural is carbureted. If you go to Hubert's site, there is a whole section (I don't know offhand) where, just search around, about the tank modifications and nearly everything else on the bike.

http://www.thetimelessride.com/US/Eurasia/Siberia.html

Having ridden across Siberia, I wish I had more fuel more times than I can remember! If nothing else, looking at what Hubert has done is very interesting.

Another friend (Rollin) has ridden IRON BUTTS and other things on a Victory. He put a roundish-beer-keg looking (read strong) tank an the back of his bike behind driver. He uses a simple hand bulb pump to fill the main tank as needed. It is simple, no electrics, safe, and works. His photos attached.

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