Rear brake pedal move?

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Re: Rear brake pedal move?

Post by Snakeoil » Wed Feb 15, 2017 2:05 pm

I got an old pedal, cut and welded it to the existing pedal to move it forward. I'm very happy with the mod. I tried changing the leverage ratio by making a new link, but that proved to make the brake wooden and I lost a lot of braking power. Here is a link to the thread. It takes you thru the gory details as I tried a couple of options. Also some data in there comparing leverage ratios from other bikes.

http://www.sovietsteeds.com/forums/view ... ke#p563828

I never did cut the original pedal pad from mine. Makes for a good conversation piece and works fine with two pads.

By the way, when I got my bike, it had a piece of box section welded to the pad to make it higher. The result was my foot rested on the pedal if I went from a toe rest to a mid-foot rest. Did not like that.

Last thing is somebody hear used a BMW left peg from an airhead. It's a direct replacement for the Ural peg. It moves your foot back an inch or so and does a couple of things. First, give you more foot room and second a better foot position relative to the pedal.

When I was at Ural NE, I got on a brand new bike with rear disc. I was surprised to find that you still have to do the ballerina move to step on the rear brake. Surprised by that.
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Re: Rear brake pedal move?

Post by Lmo » Wed Feb 15, 2017 2:06 pm

Van, is what I see on the 2013 model that you have fabricated a brake pedal/footboard?

The whole thing pivots?
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Re: Rear brake pedal move?

Post by Snakeoil » Wed Feb 15, 2017 3:28 pm

That's what it looked like to me, Lew. Actually provides more foot placement options than other ideas I've seen.
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Re: Rear brake pedal move?

Post by thecrumb » Wed Feb 15, 2017 3:36 pm

I love Van's idea. I'm still exploring options for this myself. Think I'll try the BMW peg. It's cheap. Sean also can modify your peg/pedal.

I need to break down and learn how to weld. Then I can do this sort of thing myself. :)
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Re: Rear brake pedal move?

Post by Lmo » Wed Feb 15, 2017 4:21 pm

I like it too, a lot! It reminds me of an aircraft "flying tail". But at 250# I'm a little concerned that if I stood on it the shaft would bend, especially in an off-road situation. The solution? Don't stand on it! I usually rest my right foot on the sidecar frame since I can't get my foot on the foot peg anyway. So what's the problem, Lew?

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edit - Installing it? Looks like the chair has to come off (?)
edit, edit - But I still like it, a lot!
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Re: Rear brake pedal move?

Post by GHGoodwin » Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:27 am

Try cutting the foot peg rubber first.

There's a possibility that the rear master adjuster won't be long enough afterward. They're not hard to make from some 6mm threaded shaft. You can either remove the threads on the portion that slips into the master (drill/drill press and file/.sandpaper) or cover them with some good shrink tubing. I've made a few myself and its not that hard. Go long and trim to fit.

The sidecar adjuster can be compensated for by moving the linking lever on the car side a few notches.
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Re: Rear brake pedal move?

Post by jaybird » Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:44 am

GHGoodwin wrote:Try cutting the foot peg rubber first.

There's a possibility that the rear master adjuster won't be long enough afterward. They're not hard to make from some 6mm threaded shaft. You can either remove the threads on the portion that slips into the master (drill/drill press and file/.sandpaper) or cover them with some good shrink tubing. I've made a few myself and its not that hard. Go long and trim to fit.

The sidecar adjuster can be compensated for by moving the linking lever on the car side a few notches.
I didn't need to do any of that when I cut mine.

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Re: Rear brake pedal move?

Post by Emoore » Thu Feb 16, 2017 2:13 pm

jaybird wrote:I made this mod 8 or 9 years ago, it raises the pedal over an inch.
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Quick and easy, no welding required. Only tools required are a hacksaw, knife, screwdriver, and a wrench to remove footpeg. you can do this on the bike, but much easier with the footpeg off.

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Re: Rear brake pedal move?

Post by Emoore » Thu Feb 16, 2017 2:21 pm

thecrumb wrote:I love Van's idea. I'm still exploring options for this myself. Think I'll try the BMW peg. It's cheap. Sean also can modify your peg/pedal.

I need to break down and learn how to weld. Then I can do this sort of thing myself. :)

Where can I find this BMW peg? Part number?
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Re: Rear brake pedal move?

Post by gobium » Thu Feb 16, 2017 4:33 pm

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Re: Rear brake pedal move?

Post by gobium » Thu Feb 16, 2017 4:34 pm

Lmo wrote:Van, is what I see on the 2013 model that you have fabricated a brake pedal/footboard?

The whole thing pivots?
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Yup

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Re: Rear brake pedal move?

Post by Snakeoil » Thu Feb 16, 2017 5:54 pm

Emoore wrote:
thecrumb wrote:I love Van's idea. I'm still exploring options for this myself. Think I'll try the BMW peg. It's cheap. Sean also can modify your peg/pedal.

I need to break down and learn how to weld. Then I can do this sort of thing myself. :)

Where can I find this BMW peg? Part number?
Go to any BMW parts site with on-line fiche. Max's BMW is the one I use since Max is local. Look up the right peg for any airhead. I'm 99% sure that they are all the same. It is still available as a part from BMW and believe it or not, relatively inexpensive.
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Re: RE: Re: Rear brake pedal move?

Post by Emoore » Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:13 pm

Snakeoil wrote:
Emoore wrote:
thecrumb wrote:I love Van's idea. I'm still exploring options for this myself. Think I'll try the BMW peg. It's cheap. Sean also can modify your peg/pedal.

I need to break down and learn how to weld. Then I can do this sort of thing myself. :)

Where can I find this BMW peg? Part number?
Go to any BMW parts site with on-line fiche. Max's BMW is the one I use since Max is local. Look up the right peg for any airhead. I'm 99% sure that they are all the same. It is still available as a part from BMW and believe it or not, relatively inexpensive.
Thanks.

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Re: Rear brake pedal move?

Post by Emoore » Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:21 pm

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This one?

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Re: Rear brake pedal move?

Post by gobium » Thu Feb 16, 2017 7:23 pm

Lmo wrote:I like it too, a lot! It reminds me of an aircraft "flying tail". But at 250# I'm a little concerned that if I stood on it the shaft would bend, especially in an off-road situation. The solution? Don't stand on it! I usually rest my right foot on the sidecar frame since I can't get my foot on the foot peg anyway. So what's the problem, Lew?

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edit - Installing it? Looks like the chair has to come off (?)
edit, edit - But I still like it, a lot!
It had been proven.
It is a mordern version of classic mods dated back 1998!
Not a new thing.
250 # rider is not recommended to stand up during off road.
Too top heavy for ural, might flip.

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