Mike's installation of Hal's sidecar step bracket. Now with new uses!

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Mike's installation of Hal's sidecar step bracket. Now with new uses!

Post by rebelrider » Tue Oct 07, 2014 10:34 pm

My prototype from Hal is going on a 2014 M70. I stopped by the hardware store today and got some 1/4" bolts to secure it.
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I used the bolts and spacers on side A to secure and position the bracket for drilling the first hole for side B.
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I drilled 5/16" holes for side B. The brake line fit "inside" the spacer with no problems. Wiring was easy to move out of the way.
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Next I will build a "cane" part. For now, I found an old stick just to see what it looks like.
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Re: Mike's installation of Hal's sidecar step bracket.

Post by Albuquralque » Tue Oct 07, 2014 10:51 pm

Looking good....now just a little spray paint. :thumbsup:
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Re: Mike's installation of Hal's sidecar step bracket.

Post by GHGoodwin » Thu Oct 09, 2014 10:02 am

PLEASE - PLEASE - PLEASE - DON"T leave the brake line or the wiring between bracket bolt/spacer and the frame tubing when you put it back on . Over time the bracket might shift and pinch them. Also could make removal of either a PIA.

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Post by rebelrider » Sun Oct 12, 2014 3:30 am

I plan to get the bracket powder coated. And I'm going to shorten the bolts a little. When I put it back on, I'll be sure to route the wiring and brake line safely around the bracket.

I've started working on the pole/handle. I've also got some bits that I think will work for storing it while riding. I'll post more pictures as I get further along.
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Post by rebelrider » Thu Oct 16, 2014 7:07 am

Working on the cane/handle part for the step bracket.
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I bought a 3/4 inch pipe which had an OD of about 1". And the bracket socket has an ID of about 1". A little grinding and sanding and it fits.
The bottom end still has some thread left, so I'm thinking I might use that as part of a storage mounting setup. That idea is still only half-baked though.
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The handle looks kind of like a pealed potato, or badly shaped snowball, but its actually molded plastic. I found this stuff called Instamorph on Amazon, and decided to try it.
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Throw some plastic pellets into hot water, and they clump together and become pliable. I squashed some around a threaded plastic cap to go on the end of the pipe.
The weird shape is ergonomic. So it fits comfortably in a person's hand.
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This one's a Lefty. I'm guessing it will be easiest to use with the left hand as a person pulls themselves up with it. But I could easily make it a Righty with another end cap and some more Instamorph.
Or any other shape I want. They'd all be interchangeable.
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Next step is to clean it up and do some painting. My wife is out of commission right now with a kidney stone, so I'll have to find some other folks to try it out.
The Instamorph plastic is supposed to be paintable, but I'm thinking maybe plasti-dip.
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Post by rebelrider » Sat Oct 25, 2014 4:11 am

Well, my progress is slower than I'd like, but I got the cane and handle painted.
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The cane was painted with regular ol' spray paint. I used spray-on Plasti-Dip on the handle.
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Post by GHGoodwin » Sat Oct 25, 2014 8:02 am

Very nice. +1 to your solution for the ID/OD fit on the pipe. I built the OD of my 1/2in pipe up with a layer of shrink tube. Very interesting handle. Can the material be shaped after it hardens?
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Post by rebelrider » Sat Oct 25, 2014 7:31 pm

Once you have the general shape, and its cool, it can be carved by a sharp blade. Its sort of a soft plastic that can be bent if its thin enough. It can also be reheated if you want to re-shape it. I didn't like my first attempt, so I put it back in the hot water and reused it.

Then next step will be to mount it to the sidecar for storage. I'm not sure when my wife will be able to try it out. Doctors keep ruling out possible causes to the pain in her side. We still have no idea what is causing it though. We'll have to get that figured out before she'll be up to trying out the sidecar bracket.
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Post by kg4pvo » Sat Oct 25, 2014 10:51 pm

maybe it's been a long day but
what is the point ?
Nice job with all the mods great looking metal work I just cant figure out what purpose it serves
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Re: Mike's installation of Hal's sidecar step bracket.

Post by rebelrider » Mon Oct 27, 2014 2:45 am

Its to give an extra hand-hold for people who have difficulty getting in and out of the sidecar.
http://sovietsteeds.com/forums/viewtopi ... 11&t=35999

The cane can also double as a way to ward off those pesky bikini chicks that are always wanting to sit on the rig. :P
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Re: Mike's installation of Hal's sidecar step bracket.

Post by rebelrider » Sun Nov 09, 2014 9:04 pm

Hi folks,
My wife is finally feeling better, and I got her outside to try out the new sidecar bracket today:


I got her to elaborate a bit off camera. She says she likes how it can rotate. I was a little surprised at that. I had planned to put a notch in the bottom to give it a fixed position.
She said it is very helpful to have a handle higher up to grab hold of. She's complained of difficulty getting out in the past, but It looks to me like she now has an easier time getting both in and out.

I'm still working out where exactly I want to store it. I'm also going to take the bracket in for powder coating.
I've got a couple of ideas I might try for other uses of the bracket when I have no passengers.
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Post by rebelrider » Sat Feb 28, 2015 6:49 pm

I finally got the bracket off today, so I can take it in for powder coating.
Along with a front bumper.
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Post by GHGoodwin » Sun Mar 01, 2015 4:53 pm

Looking good. Great video.

Be careful with the cane ID/OD fit after powder coating. You might want to do the bracket first then test the cane. I used electrical shrink tubing on mine. One layer on the first 6in for the socket.
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Post by rebelrider » Sun Mar 01, 2015 9:57 pm

Yeah, I was planning to only have the outside of the bracket coated.
I figure the inside would get worn away anyway. I plan to add a little oil or something to help keep the inside from rusting.
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Re: Mike's installation of Hal's sidecar step bracket.

Post by rebelrider » Sat Mar 21, 2015 1:38 am

Looks like I'll be picking up the powder coated bracket and bumper on Monday. :D

In the mean time, I've made a "scabbard" for the post.
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I spent ages trying to figure out where I'd want to mount it. This way I can just stow it in the sidecar and have it a little protected.
You can see in the picture that the paint is all scratched up now. The cover should keep it protected more.

Also, I got the little nameplate that goes on the front of the bumper painted:
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