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Kettenkrad

Post by Tin Man » Sun Feb 02, 2020 7:30 pm

Just some interesting info on one of the things on my wish list.......... :cheers:

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Re: Kettenkrad

Post by SidecarDan » Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:42 am

Cool video, thanks for posting it.
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Re: Kettenkrad

Post by RC20 » Mon Feb 03, 2020 4:01 pm

Mini tracked machine ala a Bren Gun Carrier (or what I grew up seeing them called, officially different name I think). Not sure why they put the front tire on it.

Very cool machines.
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Re: Kettenkrad

Post by windmill » Mon Feb 03, 2020 4:30 pm

RC20 wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 4:01 pm
Mini tracked machine ala a Bren Gun Carrier (or what I grew up seeing them called, officially different name I think). Not sure why they put the front tire on it.

Very cool machines.
I talked to a person who owned one, he said the front end can be raised or removed for certain conditions, but it's easier to drive with it.
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Re: Kettenkrad

Post by Tomcatfixer » Mon Feb 03, 2020 5:58 pm

RC20 wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 4:01 pm
Mini tracked machine ala a Bren Gun Carrier (or what I grew up seeing them called, officially different name I think). Not sure why they put the front tire on it.

Very cool machines.
The British Bren Gun Carrier and German Kettenkrad are two completely different machines.

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Re: Kettenkrad

Post by chaos2 » Mon Feb 03, 2020 6:11 pm

interesting tidbit about the Kettenkrad, when the front wheel is turned more than a couple degrees it starts to engage the brakes for the track on the side it's turning towards.
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Re: Kettenkrad

Post by Speedbump » Mon Feb 03, 2020 7:10 pm

I want one. Don't know what I would use it for, but I want one.
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Re: Kettenkrad

Post by ReCycled » Mon Feb 03, 2020 7:17 pm

They do come up for sale occasionally, just gonna set you back about the price of a dozen new Urals.I

https://www.argunners.com/german-sdkfz- ... at-135000/
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Re: Kettenkrad

Post by Tomcatfixer » Mon Feb 03, 2020 7:48 pm

ReCycled wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 7:17 pm
They do come up for sale occasionally, just gonna set you back about the price of a dozen new Urals.I

https://www.argunners.com/german-sdkfz- ... at-135000/
I recently sold my Virginia Beach home. Instead of rolling the profits into my new mortgage, I could instead purchase this kettenkrad.

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Of course, I kinda enjoy being married and would like to keep that going. :oops:
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Re: Kettenkrad

Post by GHGoodwin » Mon Feb 03, 2020 9:34 pm

Tomcatfixer wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 7:48 pm
ReCycled wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 7:17 pm
They do come up for sale occasionally, just gonna set you back about the price of a dozen new Urals.I

https://www.argunners.com/german-sdkfz- ... at-135000/
I recently sold my Virginia Beach home. Instead of rolling the profits into my new mortgage, I could instead purchase this kettenkrad.


Kettenkrad.jpg


Of course, I kinda enjoy being married and would like to keep that going. :oops:
Perhaps you could convince the better half it's a mini mobile home? :lol:
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Re: Kettenkrad

Post by RC20 » Mon Feb 03, 2020 9:47 pm

The British Bren Gun Carrier and German Kettenkrad are two completely different machines.
No disagreement but I see them as both tracked field utility vehicles.

As for the front wheel, you have to ask the cost to build it and maint vs what it returned.

The Sherman was pretty basic in most ways, but you could build a bazzilion of them allowing the chassis to be used for all sorts of stuff as well as the tank. Relativity easy maintain and repair to other tanks. They put the tech in the optics and the turret turning where it counted.

Panther was really sophisticated drive system, but 50% were down for break down repairs. Changing an inner road wheel on one? Change a trany. There goes your availability.

All fun stuff to ponder with some good info coming out in recent years.
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1 x R80GS (ok to start with, learned to love it for what it was)
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Re: Kettenkrad

Post by RC20 » Mon Feb 03, 2020 9:51 pm

I recently sold my Virginia Beach home. Instead of rolling the profits into my new mortgage, I could instead purchase this kettenkrad.
Good grief, you can buy a T-34 for less than that (running!) Big bunch just came out of Laos (ran around on the Plain of Jars I would guess)

We paid ours off, surely in all that is good I have no desire to have a mortgage again. Allowed me tell them they could take the job and I quit.

My wife and I talked about getting an original Bronco as a get around rig, until we saw the price they were going for. New Ural was a bargain :) Not quite as usable but cost and fuel mileage - no comparisons.
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Formerly Owned: ( various rides on others)
Honda 90
2 x CB750K (one a true Japan Model flown to Hawaii by a P3 Orion Sub Patrol Aircraft!)
1 x CB700 SC ala Shaft Drive Nighthawk S (RC20 is the actual in house production Model)
1 x R80GS (ok to start with, learned to love it for what it was)
1 x CB450K

Current:
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Re: Kettenkrad

Post by windmill » Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:20 pm

Tomcatfixer wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 7:48 pm
ReCycled wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 7:17 pm
They do come up for sale occasionally, just gonna set you back about the price of a dozen new Urals.I

https://www.argunners.com/german-sdkfz- ... at-135000/
I recently sold my Virginia Beach home. Instead of rolling the profits into my new mortgage, I could instead purchase this kettenkrad.


Kettenkrad.jpg


Of course, I kinda enjoy being married and would like to keep that going. :oops:
I think that's a "fishing" price, I've seen them for sale for far less in recent years. Way back in 1986 I got to ride on the back of one at a motorcycle museum/restoration shop that specialized in WLA's in Roy Wa. They had it for sale and wanted $8k for it.
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Re: Kettenkrad

Post by dneprlover » Tue Feb 04, 2020 5:14 am

windmill wrote:
Mon Feb 03, 2020 10:20 pm

I think that's a "fishing" price, I've seen them for sale for far less in recent years. Way back in 1986 I got to ride on the back of one at a motorcycle museum/restoration shop that specialized in WLA's in Roy Wa. They had it for sale and wanted $8k for it.
Not too sure whether that is a 'fishing' price. The current price in the Uk seems to be around £100k

During a stock market crash round 1989ish. My mate bought a nice Zundapp KS750 for £6500 from a skint collector. He could easily sell it for £40k now.

Old vehicles with a wartime connection , especially German combat related ones are relatively rare and command a premium price.
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Re: Kettenkrad

Post by :FI:Igor » Tue Feb 04, 2020 7:51 am

I think the idea of the front wheel was for training proposes. The machine was intended to be a artillery tractor for the Fallschirmjägers, not real tankers. It gave them the 'feel' of a motorcycle. The machine ended up being an aircraft tug (very expensive tug!)
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