Broke the Pusher on Day One!

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Re: Broke the Pusher on Day One!

Post by Daisy Cutter » Wed Nov 27, 2019 7:57 pm

Mr Wazzock wrote:
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Ah I remember something about this. Yours is all disc brakes, that means the spare is ONLY for the pusher .
not true
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Re: Broke the Pusher on Day One!

Post by OleanderSalad » Wed Nov 27, 2019 8:37 pm

Daisy Cutter wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 7:57 pm
Mr Wazzock wrote:
Wed Nov 27, 2019 4:20 pm
Ah I remember something about this. Yours is all disc brakes, that means the spare is ONLY for the pusher .
not true
No, turns out it's for any wheel, just have to pull the disk off of that wheel, transfer it to the spare, and bob's your uncle. I'm not sure, but it actually looks exactly like the steer and car wheels.
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Re: Broke the Pusher on Day One!

Post by OleanderSalad » Wed Nov 27, 2019 8:51 pm

Happytrails wrote:
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Hope IMZ is able to help you out with your wheel! :)
I think they really should. The spare, car, and steer wheels are all stamped Sep or Aug 2015, but the broken pusher is stamped April 2012, and that's smack in the middle of the cursed recall run.

No word back from Josh or Lydia yet, but I'm sure they will do the right thing.
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Re: Broke the Pusher on Day One!

Post by stagewex » Wed Nov 27, 2019 9:51 pm

Holy Cow, that is one of the recalled wheels. How the heck did that get on that bike but the others are 2015?
Maybe they others already grenaded and were replaced already? Getting closer to the real mystery here.
Anyway you can actually locate the previous owner via the dealer that took it on trade.

Your '15 wheels should be OK.
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Re: Broke the Pusher on Day One!

Post by :FI:Igor » Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:38 pm

I've had two rims crack/split like that. Contact Gene at Holopaw; he can build a new rim on your old wheel for a very reasonable price.
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Re: Broke the Pusher on Day One!

Post by Desantnik-VDV » Thu Nov 28, 2019 12:06 am

It for sure will be covered by IMZ.
It's well worth to invest a few hundred dollars in still rims if you have to lace it by yourself.
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Re: Broke the Pusher on Day One!

Post by :FI:Igor » Thu Nov 28, 2019 12:23 am

Originally the three disk type wheels were interchangeable. However, it was later stated that the spare was to be configured for the pusher only. The Mother Ship has since removed the instructions for reconfiguring the spare for all three positions. It was complicated for everything except the pusher.
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Re: Broke the Pusher on Day One!

Post by Albuquralque » Thu Nov 28, 2019 8:40 am

OK lets straighten this discussion about the spare out.

2014 Patrol/Gearup - Bike came with a large hubbed pusher and the large hubbed spare.
2015 Patrol/Gearup - Introduction of the "universal spare".....small hubbed wheel that could be installed in all three positions. Bike still had large hubbed wheel at pusher position.
2016 - Patrol/Gearup - Bike has universal spare and large hubbed pusher.

In order to install the rear brake disc on the small hubbed universal spare in the pusher position, a spacer is needed. IMZ-8.1240-07203 - Intermediate Bushing is what the parts list calls it. If the OP bike came with the "Universal Spare", it should have also had this spacer to allow the spare to be installed in the pusher position with the rear brake disc.
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Re: Broke the Pusher on Day One!

Post by OleanderSalad » Thu Nov 28, 2019 9:40 am

Albuquralque wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 8:40 am
In order to install the small hubbed universal spare in the pusher position, a spacer is needed. IMZ-8.1240-07203 - Intermediate Bushing is what the parts list calls it. If the OP bike came with the "Universal Spare", it should have also had this spacer to allow the spare to be installed in the pusher position.
I'm a total N00B Uralist, but I have very recent experience doing this on a 2018 GU.

I followed the directions at https://www.imz-ural.com/blog/2016/08/1 ... pare-wheel to the letter. There was no 'spacer' mentioned in the directions, and the beast seems perfectly happy without one.

With all due respect, I hope you are mistaken. :)

If you are correct, I'd be really interested in seeing more info or maybe a picture of the 'spacer'. Thanks!
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Re: Broke the Pusher on Day One!

Post by Jack'D » Thu Nov 28, 2019 10:49 am

Like others have said call or email Jason Rae or Tyler Blakely at Ural. They have found there are many other dates of manufacturing that are breaking. Send him the pics of it. Check your other rims closely before contacting him. They have been really cool about making the wheel claims right. Wish they would do the same for the powder coat bikes. :(
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Re: Broke the Pusher on Day One!

Post by windmill » Thu Nov 28, 2019 11:32 am

OleanderSalad wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 9:40 am
Albuquralque wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 8:40 am
In order to install the small hubbed universal spare in the pusher position, a spacer is needed. IMZ-8.1240-07203 - Intermediate Bushing is what the parts list calls it. If the OP bike came with the "Universal Spare", it should have also had this spacer to allow the spare to be installed in the pusher position.
I'm a total N00B Uralist, but I have very recent experience doing this on a 2018 GU.

I followed the directions at https://www.imz-ural.com/blog/2016/08/1 ... pare-wheel to the letter. There was no 'spacer' mentioned in the directions, and the beast seems perfectly happy without one.

With all due respect, I hope you are mistaken. :)

If you are correct, I'd be really interested in seeing more info or maybe a picture of the 'spacer'. Thanks!
The spacer is shown in the second picture of step 12. Without it one can't mount the rear disc to the hub.

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Re: Broke the Pusher on Day One!

Post by INSUBORDINATOR » Thu Nov 28, 2019 11:43 am

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Re: Broke the Pusher on Day One!

Post by Albuquralque » Thu Nov 28, 2019 11:53 am

OleanderSalad wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 9:40 am
Albuquralque wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 8:40 am
In order to install the small hubbed universal spare in the pusher position, a spacer is needed. IMZ-8.1240-07203 - Intermediate Bushing is what the parts list calls it. If the OP bike came with the "Universal Spare", it should have also had this spacer to allow the spare to be installed in the pusher position.
I'm a total N00B Uralist, but I have very recent experience doing this on a 2018 GU.

I followed the directions at https://www.imz-ural.com/blog/2016/08/1 ... pare-wheel to the letter. There was no 'spacer' mentioned in the directions, and the beast seems perfectly happy without one.

With all due respect, I hope you are mistaken. :)

If you are correct, I'd be really interested in seeing more info or maybe a picture of the 'spacer'. Thanks!
Look at Step 13 of referenced instructions. It shows and highlights this spacer.
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Re: Broke the Pusher on Day One!

Post by OleanderSalad » Thu Nov 28, 2019 12:06 pm

windmill wrote:
Thu Nov 28, 2019 11:32 am

The spacer is shown in the second picture of step 12. Without it one can't mount the rear disc to the hub.
Gotcher. That was already mounted to the spare so I didn't see it as an extra part I needed. Whew!

From the how too docs it looks like you can leave the spacer on and mount the disk on the other sided for the car spare, but swapping out the front looks like an only-if-absolutely-have-to proposition. You have to remove the spacer, and do all kinds of wild pin and ring stuff to the hub.

Final analysis, it IS universal as is. It has the spacer already installed. You can use the spare in all three positions , but the front wheel would probably require a tow truck. I think if you knew you might be breaking your front rim, it would be easier to just carry two extras, the spare, and a ready-to-go front wheel/tire. :)

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Re: Broke the Pusher on Day One!

Post by snowymonkey » Thu Nov 28, 2019 1:17 pm

I’ll say it.......

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