Center Stand? ... Doh

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Center Stand Troubleshooting

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Center Stand? ... Doh

Post by DylanW » Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:24 am

I was troubleshooting a problem with my drive shaft and also switched out my pusher as the treads are just about gone.
I adjusted the brakes after I put the new pusher on and dropped it off the center stand.
Then I spent at least 10 minutes troubleshooting an awful grinding sound I'd hear when I'd push the bike forwards and backwards. Wasn't coming from the final drive and wasn't coming from the donut/tranny area.

As I got ready to put it back on the center stand I noticed the sound was the center stand dragging on the ground.
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So yeah, wondering how many others will admit they got caught by this.

Still haven't fixed my driveshaft problem, and my new pusher got a flat on my first run :(
Good news is I've taken the pusher and final drive off and put them back on so many times this past week, I was able to change the pusher in the dark without a problem.
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Re: Center Stand? ... Doh

Post by SidecarDan » Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:01 am

Hasn't got me, yet, but now I'll be on the lookout thanks to you. :)
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Re: Center Stand? ... Doh

Post by VWK75S » Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:01 am

My GU only came with 1 spring it drags and bounces.
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Post by snowymonkey » Sun Nov 10, 2019 7:54 am

Yup, caught me one time as well. Drove me nuts. Had the same reaction as you :lol:
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Re: Center Stand? ... Doh

Post by harryball » Sun Nov 10, 2019 8:02 am

Haven't had that happen but I did spend a week once looking for a clunk sound while riding that turned out to be the center stand springing down over bumps and coming back up to produce the clunk.
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Post by stagewex » Sun Nov 10, 2019 9:15 am

Guilty as charged.
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Re: Center Stand? ... Doh

Post by Speedbump » Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:28 am

Nope. Never used it so I removed it.
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Post by :FI:Igor » Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:45 am

Mine is fully operational. You guys that removed it.... how do you keep your rigs from falling over?..... har har sidecar humor...
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Post by MonkeysUncle » Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:00 pm

I am familiar with the sound and the resulting forehead slap on finally locating the source.
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Post by INSUBORDINATOR » Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:53 pm

No trouble with mine yet - but I keep it on - because I'd rather put my Floor Jack under IT than try grabbing the frame just right. FLOOR JACK or the Screw Jack (In my trunk) lift the bike higher for wheel removal. I always wondered WHY they didn't put a deploy tab on the canter stand ? only time I tried to use it - was hard to reach behind my left muffler.
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Re: Center Stand? ... Doh

Post by Lmo » Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:11 pm

I always wondered WHY they didn't put a deploy tab on the canter stand ?
Maybe because folks would think it is for raising the bike up onto the center stand, and not just to drop it to the ground; it's a classic BMW center stand deploy tab problem (resulting in it being broken off ).

Need a classic rear mounted 'main stand' set up.

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Or. ... an electrically deployed center stand, for a mere $730.

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Re: Center Stand? ... Doh

Post by RC20 » Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:52 pm

Speedbump wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 10:28 am
Nope. Never used it so I removed it.
Once you get the rig up off the ground you can drop it and it acts as a wheel jack (safety) - I have both wheel jacks and chocks.

I was taught never to trust a jack, more so hydraulic. Granted screw jacks are pretty reliable in their simplicity.

I still hate working on the Passat as there is no Frame Jack I know of so I have to depend on the jack (scissors or hydraulic).

I have had the center stand stay down on other cycles, par for the course, but not on the Ural as I move it by hand.
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Re: Center Stand? ... Doh

Post by RC20 » Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:54 pm

INSUBORDINATOR wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 12:53 pm
No trouble with mine yet - but I keep it on - because I'd rather put my Floor Jack under IT than try grabbing the frame just right. FLOOR JACK or the Screw Jack (In my trunk) lift the bike higher for wheel removal. I always wondered WHY they didn't put a deploy tab on the canter stand ? only time I tried to use it - was hard to reach behind my left muffler.
Agreed fully. Ural shows using a piece of wood to get it up high enough to drop it.
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Re: Center Stand? ... Doh

Post by Lofty » Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:40 pm

Lmo wrote:
Sun Nov 10, 2019 1:11 pm
I always wondered WHY they didn't put a deploy tab on the canter stand ?
Maybe because folks would think it is for raising the bike up onto the center stand, and not just to drop it to the ground;
I've owned several motorcycles that were equipped with a center stand. In each instance, the stand's deployment arm (so named because of its intended function) was used to assist in raising the bike onto the center stand.

The installation instructions usually stated that the rider should press his foot down on the tab of the deployment arm, to hold the now-lowered stand in place, as he lifted the motorcycle up and back onto the stand. Depending on the weight of the motorcycle, pressing into the tab as the bike was being lifted was necessary to complete the action.

If the instructions didn't include the aforementioned language, and the rider didn't put his foot on the tab after folding the stand down, the retention springs would cause the stand to crash back into its folded position. The rider would figure things out pretty quickly at that point.

The design of the spring set on the Ural's center stand is such that they aren't strong enough to pull the stand back up into place when it is folded down to the ground (the prevailing lament in this thread, it would seem). That said, it's still usually necessary to put one's foot on the outer-most leg of the stand -- again, to hold it in place -- when lifting the rig up on to the stand. This is doubly true when working on the concrete floor of one's garage.

I'd agree that the absence of a deployment arm on the Ural is a mildly annoying oversight. We can give folks credit for understanding its function, too, even if several of them forget to return the stand itself to the stowed position afterwards. :wink:
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