You still drive a stick?

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You still drive a stick?

Post by chaos2 » Tue Nov 05, 2019 11:30 am

Saw this in an article about the new Aston Martin Vantage AMR, which amazingly comes with a manual.....

"In 1980, one in three cars sold in America had a stick. Today, it’s barely one in 100, though I’ll argue that lack of supply, not merely lack of demand, is partly to blame."

The article goes on that while 10 speed dual clutch wonderslushboxes are quicker and more fuel efficient nowadays, the difference is negligible in day to day driving, especially when balanced against the feedback and fun of shifting. I have to agree, we have a VW with a manual and a van with an auto, the van is about as entertaining to drive as doing a load of laundry while the VW manages to keep my attention. Though I'm a glutton for punishment, 99% of the time I'm on the bicycle, Ural, or K-bike. Are people really getting that lazy and more concerned with texting, eating their hot dog and playing with google maps that they can't enjoy the simple pleasure of driving? My kids all learned on a stick and for the most part prefer one but I'm wondering how much longer you'll be able to buy car with a third pedal.. The new Corvettes don't even off one. Sad, imo.
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Re: You still drive a stick?

Post by windmill » Tue Nov 05, 2019 11:38 am

I drive for a living, shifting doesn't hold any romance for me anymore. If I must be in a car, my only concern is to get from A to B with the least possible effort. If an automatic is an option that doesn't compromise anything meaningful to me, its my first choice.

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Re: You still drive a stick?

Post by Mr Wazzock » Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:11 pm


Current jalopy is a 5-speed manual, 3-door hatchback. I like autos, but I also like being able to choose my own ratios.
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Re: You still drive a stick?

Post by rd.king » Tue Nov 05, 2019 12:15 pm

I drive a newer mustang with a six speed love it, always driven that way.
But the fact is electronic controlled automatics have become faster as a performance feature than a manual.
Take two mustangs manual & auto to the strip the auto is going to win with it's options set for track mode.
As well as economy automatics are more fuel efficient.
Not to mention only offering one trans option is cheaper for the manufacturer.

Just this summer I spent a couple hours in both a Ferrari 458 and Lamborghini hurrican.
I'll tell ya 0 to 60 in about 3 seconds over a 100 in 5 you don't have time to reminisce about the old stick shifts days.
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Re: You still drive a stick?

Post by Happytrails » Tue Nov 05, 2019 1:04 pm

Enjoyed manual when was younger. Now i just want easy and comfortable and luxury. I'd love a stick if i bought a sports car but thats not the direction I've been heading. :)

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Re: You still drive a stick?

Post by CamaroEric » Tue Nov 05, 2019 1:30 pm

I love shifting.
62 Ford and both bikes are manual (the NC had an auto option...).

I don't ever plan on pursuing any cars/bikes with an auto, although I'm not against the older vacuum controlled transmissions like I am against the newfangled electrogizmo transmissions of today.
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Re: You still drive a stick?

Post by Speedbump » Tue Nov 05, 2019 1:36 pm

Commute traffic took the fun out of a stick in a car for me. Now a weekend cruiser? That will definitely need a stick.
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Re: You still drive a stick?

Post by El queso » Tue Nov 05, 2019 1:56 pm

I’ve never owned an automatic, but I drive enough rentals to know my next car will be an auto.
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Re: You still drive a stick?

Post by wooden nickel » Tue Nov 05, 2019 2:35 pm

I just sold my manual shift VW van last year but one of the biggest reasons I had to sell is that clutch hurt my arthritic knee. In stop and go traffic it was very painful. Automatics for me henceforth.
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Re: You still drive a stick?

Post by cookiemech » Tue Nov 05, 2019 3:02 pm

Well, sure, I drove manual transmissions as long as the vehicles I wanted were available with them . . . My car now is a 2012 Subaru Forester which was allegedly available with a manual trans, but they couldn't find one for me at the time (I wanted a totally stripped model, no roof rack or alloy wheels). And my pickup is a 2005 Toyota Tundra, which was simply not available with a manual transmission and V8.

Cars are just necessary transportation to me and I no longer care what transmissions they have. I put just over 300 miles on the Foz and about 100 miles on the Tundra last year. The rest were on motorcycles and the Ural.
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Re: You still drive a stick?

Post by cheeseheadmike » Tue Nov 05, 2019 5:10 pm

My Wrangler has a 6-speed manual that gets stirred quite a bit. I guess you could call the thing in the DeSoto a semi-auto. Has a clutch and is shifted manually between low and high range but shifts sort of automatically between the gears in each range.

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Re: You still drive a stick?

Post by Tazio » Tue Nov 05, 2019 5:15 pm

When I go into a dealer, the first question I ask is, "What do you have in manual?" Usual response is "Nothing'" So my reply is, "I'm to old to learn how to drive an automatic." All my old cars run just fine.
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Re: You still drive a stick?

Post by RC20 » Tue Nov 05, 2019 5:24 pm

Funny story of a car exchange and the wife needed to drive the Automatic her husband normally did (he also had a truck with a manual).

She got real tense and began to hedge etc. Took a bit to get it out of her.

Upshot she had never driven an auto and had no idea how to do it. So a quick road run.

When I was like 7, some people my folks knew back in Wisconsin braved the AK Highway in a sedan and visited us up around the AK/Canada Borer in a place called Northway (Weather station fore FAA and aircraft customs clearance)

I looked in and there was only two pedals. I had to ask them how they got it to move! It took a while to convince me they wern't pulling my leg.
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Re: You still drive a stick?

Post by Michal » Tue Nov 05, 2019 6:20 pm

I've never driven automatic transmission car in my life (I'm 40) and I have no idea how to control that thing if I have to. Neither have my wife.

Most cars in my region have manual transmission. Driving schools and car rentals too. After all, everyone here passed driving test in manual gearbox car to get driver license.
Car manufacturers even didn't offered automatic transmission option for budget car models in the past. They do now because they sell these in western parts of Europe. Never seen one here, budget customers don't buy automatic because it's expensive and it comes with risk of very expensive overhaul necessary during car life. Manual gearbox seldom ever fails and new clutch disk is cheap.
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Re: You still drive a stick?

Post by bakerchp18 » Tue Nov 05, 2019 6:21 pm

My choice would be: 1960's - 1970's Muscle Car MUST BE A STICK
Later Model performance car, Corvette, Mustang, Etc, would go with Auto due to performance advantage.
Years ago, I reluctantly started using air shift on my road race bikes, always felt like I was "cheating" :lol:

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