Got an invitation fr Ilya and Madina to test ride 19 Ural

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Re: Got an invitation fr Ilya and Madina to test ride 19 Ural

Post by Waffl6 » Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:41 pm

Tomcatfixer wrote:
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And Chad - the possibility exists that the toolbox will be an available part to order. Ilya cautioned that it'd probably be expensive to install, though, because of the body work and painting. You'd have to cut a hole in the front of the tub, weld it in, then finish and paint it up.
So, what you're saying is that it would really only be worthwhile for someone who's, say, completely overhauling a rig? :wink:
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This is all I can think of right now when I see you trying to get ahold of one of these sidecars frunks. :lol:



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Re: Got an invitation fr Ilya and Madina to test ride 19 Ural

Post by Lofty » Tue Feb 12, 2019 4:06 pm

Tomcatfixer wrote:
Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:16 pm
So, what you're saying is that it would really only be worthwhile for someone who's, say, completely overhauling a rig?
That sweet government pension isn't going to spend itself.

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Re: Got an invitation fr Ilya and Madina to test ride 19 Ural

Post by RC20 » Tue Feb 12, 2019 4:36 pm

You dont really appreciate the 19 unless you owned older ural 2018 or older.
I think most cycle riders can get the feel for descriptions and what I am reading is enough to push me over the top to 2019. I do have experience with the R80GS and some idea of the machines. That bike was not some slick shifint machine either, had some flaws but overall a great ride.

I did not like it at first, but the more I rode it the more the respect. Different than the CB700 rocket (or what passed for one back then).

As for where stuff comes from, that is a complicated subject. Mostly it depends on what the specs to the mfg are and what their quality control process is. I have contactors (big power relays for 3-100 hp motors) made in the US that are junk now - where as Siemens who made IEC stuff integrated the old Furnace contractors into their line of electronic overloads and its a fine piece of equipment.

I had one mechanic who was gushing over the nice Reliance (now gone) motor. Uhh Frank, you do see its made in Taiwan (an oddball 1200 rpm and most mfg just adapter existing which is poor ops) - Reliance was the best motor out there and the Tainwan mfg one was fully up to snuff to the US made ones.

Yes I have seen the Indochinese generic ones, pretty grim to look at but they also worked (as did the abhorred Chinese axles on my car)

I have had more Baldor defects the last 5 years than I ever saw before.

Yes we will have failures, but Ural looks to be doing their level best to have solid to top grade stuff (nothing wrong with solid, if it does the job it needs that is fine - save top grade for where its needed like fuel systems)

I have yet to see a bad SKF bearing. They make them all over the world (including US) - I also use their ceramic ball bearings (arching issue) on VFD driven motors - had one set in for 8 years x 24 hours a day and going just fine. On the other hand the Toyota ceramic bearing we tried was squeeling inside of 3 months (tried to save money, Toyota good right?)

Are all Toyota made ceramics bad? No, maybe a one off but I know where to go to get an almost guaranteed good one. Toyota makes really good stuff normally. Who knows on this one.

I still have to finalize my plans and see how the financing is going to work, but once I do, its a 2019 cT! Terra Cotta, black engine (probably) - spare wheel, fuel can and a fairing and I am off.

The price is not the issue, can I manage to afford it? There is a certain level you can't go below and if I can afford the Ural then I don't blame them.
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Re: Got an invitation fr Ilya and Madina to test ride 19 Ural

Post by RC20 » Tue Feb 12, 2019 4:43 pm

Years back I had the unfortunate and fortunate chance to visit the Philippines (I did not want to go)

The local shops built model aircraft, shipped all over the world. You could not tell them from a plastic model line wise (perfect). Pain and finish were like none you ever saw on a plastic model (made of balsa wood) - all their tools were made out of files and metal parts salvaged from the base disposal (I believe they sorted it out)

I could no more have survived let alone crafted something like that if my life depended on it (and their did)

You have to admire someone who can pare tools down to a minimum and make them work in many applications. Usually its road service guys who pull that off. I would like to see Sergia in action.

A visit to Redmond is high on my list.

Maybe Ural can do like Boeing does and run tours and make some money at it as well!
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Formerly Owned: ( various rides on others)
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1 x R80GS (ok to start with, learned to love it for what it was)
1 x CB450K

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Re: Got an invitation fr Ilya and Madina to test ride 19 Ural

Post by Tomcatfixer » Tue Feb 12, 2019 4:50 pm

This is all I can think of right now when I see you trying to get ahold of one of these sidecars frunks.
Ha! Too much stuff is just not enough.
That sweet government pension isn't going to spend itself.
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Re: Got an invitation fr Ilya and Madina to test ride 19 Ural

Post by Mr Wazzock » Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:41 pm

gobium wrote:
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How bad was the hydro locked crank?
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Re: Got an invitation fr Ilya and Madina to test ride 19 Ural

Post by RC20 » Thu Feb 14, 2019 8:38 pm

I watched the ride video.

Sheese, icy sides of roads and wet at best and those speeds. I was impressed! (and agree, the car speed would have been my max and then some)
100k estimated cycle driving:

Formerly Owned: ( various rides on others)
Honda 90
2 x CB750K (one a true Japan Model flown to Hawaii by a P3 Orion Sub Patrol Aircraft!)
1 x CB700 SC (RC20 is the actual in house production Model)
1 x R80GS (ok to start with, learned to love it for what it was)
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Re: Got an invitation fr Ilya and Madina to test ride 19 Ural

Post by rougaroo » Fri Feb 15, 2019 8:24 am

The scariest part were the curves where tall trees shielded the road. It was about 26F, and it was hard to tell if the roads were cleared or black ice. Fortunately we had another Ural ahead of us when we rode the 2019, so I figured I'd slow down when I saw him go off the road. :wink:

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Re: Got an invitation fr Ilya and Madina to test ride 19 Ural

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Re: Got an invitation fr Ilya and Madina to test ride 19 Ural

Post by gobium » Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:45 am

That is a cT behind Ilya
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Re: Got an invitation fr Ilya and Madina to test ride 19 Ural

Post by rehab circus » Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:52 am

Wait a minute. Are you saying the 2019 ct has telescopic forks?
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Re: Got an invitation fr Ilya and Madina to test ride 19 Ural

Post by gobium » Fri Feb 15, 2019 10:56 am

rehab circus wrote:
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Wait a minute. Are you saying the 2019 ct has telescopic forks?
Yes but not for USA market.....;)
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Re: Got an invitation fr Ilya and Madina to test ride 19 Ural

Post by hotflash44 » Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:23 am

gobium wrote:
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question in the first picture at what looks like Ural factory plant on the right side near the down tube just above the exhaust pipe what is the black long box for. hard to see its on both the bikes in the picture. :cheers:
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Re: Got an invitation fr Ilya and Madina to test ride 19 Ural

Post by gobium » Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:41 am

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Re: Got an invitation fr Ilya and Madina to test ride 19 Ural

Post by Mr Wazzock » Fri Feb 15, 2019 11:42 am

Why do they think we want telescopic forks in Europe? :? ..?

I don't ... is it a fashion thing?
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