Flasher problem, FOUND IT

[Big Yellow]

My left front flasher stopped working
Changed the bulb, nope
Checked the socket, nope
Removed headlight, nothing out of place
Check contanuity (sp) and the socket is shorted,
But if I open the connection behind the headlight the short is not on the socket end, it's toward the main harness.

So am I looking for a short somewhere, or is this the failure mode of the flasher unit?

If it is the flasher unit, where is it and what does it look like?

a wiring diagram would come in handy, the thing in the owners manual that is labled as such is about as useful as a picture of a pony.

So now in just 823 Kilometers I've used a brake switch, starter (still waiting on both) and now maybe a flasher. At this rate I'll have a completly new bike by the time I get to 5,000 Ki. It is fun to ride though.

Thanks,
Bill

[JohnBG]

It's the flasher unit...

They are crap. Worst part is its not a RPOC (Russian Piece oOf Crap) but rather a APOC (American Piece Of Crap). It's made by Tridon here uin the USA (or maybe in Mexico or China).

Mine went withing the first 500kms. Ya can pick up another one at the local auto parts hut.

It's on the right hand side of the steering neck behind the headlight. It's a circular jobbie. Pull it straight out like you would a plug from an electrical socket.

Take the old one out and match it up at NAPA or whatever auto parts store is nearby. A replacement unit should be about $12 +/-.

Look here for a picture and details on how to replace it.
Link: http://sovietsteeds.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=661

[Big Yellow]

John,
Thanks for the info, saw that round thing in there and wondered what it might be. Off to NAPA tomorrow morning.

On the upside, as I was checking the bulbs, all had greese on them, doubt it was the factory, must have been the dealer. Thought that was a nice touch.

[Tin Man]

Mine was still working but I figgered I better go get one anyway so I just picked one up yesterday at O'Reilly's Auto Parts. Told them I was looking for an EL-12 and the guy walked over and picked the correct number off the pegboard. It was a Tridon and he even let me go out and try it just to make sure it worked. Actually I think he just wanted to see the rig. Cost about $7.00. When I picked up my rig, the signal indicator on the dash was not working. I figgered to have it fixed t the first service no biggie. I plug in the new flasher and shazam, indicator light works. Go figger.

[Bilgekeeldave]

My Ukrainian flasher works fine after four years!

Dave

[JohnBG]

My Ukrainian flasher works fine after four years!

Dave

The old thermal flasher unit on my '98 650 still blinks away fine...

[Latguy]

My flasher quit at 600Km - NAPA had a "Heavy Duty" flasher on the shelf. Being the kind of guy who always goes for the "HD" option, I paid the $16.
Dunno if it's really worth the extra bucks but it's still working...

[Big Yellow]

Just got a new flasher unit, nope that's not it.
I've replaced the bulb, not that
I have a short between the two lines going to the left front flasher (note, all other work)
if I disconnet the connector behind the headlight, and test for the short it's not in the leg going towards the signal arm itself, but it is shorted on the connector going towards the main harness.

Where does that go? Any suggestions

Thanks,
Bill

[George Butz]

John has a good, updated wiring diagram. You need to start there.

Welcome to the weird world of Ural electrical Gremlins.
We all have been there.....The only problems I have had with my '07 have been such electrical things. You'll find it.

[Wallybob]

You might want to check the fuses under the left of the headlight also. When my flasher went, so did two fuses.

Enjoy the day!

[Big Yellow]

Yup, no doubt about it I need a wiring diagram.

Anybody have one?

Symptom is, just the left front flasher fails. Not the bulb, not the flasher unit (both have been replaced). There is a dead short in the yellow line going to the left front signal (but remember, all the others work). If I open the connector behind the headlight the short is on the harness side of the connector.

So just where does that line go?

I don't want to take the bike compleatly apart if I don't need to

Help

[OPA]

Just recently received my 3rd flasher replacement from my dealer. Look like Ural has changed the vendor. These units are manufactured overseas and look like a much better flasher. Time will tell but at least Ural is responding to a bad product. I am sorry that the USA flasher was a complete dud.

Tom

[S 854]

Yup, no doubt about it I need a wiring diagram.

Anybody have one?

Symptom is, just the left front flasher fails. Not the bulb, not the flasher unit (both have been replaced). There is a dead short in the yellow line going to the left front signal (but remember, all the others work). If I open the connector behind the headlight the short is on the harness side of the connector.

So just where does that line go?

I don't want to take the bike compleatly apart if I don't need to

Help

If it's just one bulb failing to flash, it's not likely you have a short, but rather an open circuit, one of the wires connecting to that particular bulb is not connecting. If there were a short in the circuit, the fuse would blow and the left rear light wouldn't flash.

As I am technically still Ural-less, I can't point to any specific wire, but I've read that there are grounding issues with certain Ural components. Try running a jumper from a good ground to the bulb socket, see if it lights... and try a test lamp on the hot side also connected to a known good ground...

Also, couldn't hurt to switch the bulbs from front to rear... just to make sure there isn't a bulb problem...

Good luck, sounds like you're having fun

[Yankee Dog]

.....................Symptom is, just the left front flasher fails. Not the bulb, not the flasher unit (both have been replaced). There is a dead short in the yellow line going to the left front signal (but remember, all the others work). If I open the connector behind the headlight the short is on the harness side of the connector.

So just where does that line go?

I don't want to take the bike compleatly apart if I don't need to

Help

I had a similar symtom. The signal in the side car did not work. It turned out to be a short in the connector behind the headlight. I traced the wires from the left handle bar to a fairly large connector. When I pulled it apart there was a bit of carbon on the male plug associated with the left turn signal. I cleaned it off with a bit of steel wool. Twisted it just a hair to get a better connection, dabbed on some dielectric grease and I was good to go. Turn signal has been working ever since.

Good luck.

Yankee Dog

[Big Yellow]

I'll try again, it is a short, as measured with a Fluke meter. It's not the bulb, fuse or flasher unit, all have been replaced (in the case of the bulb it works in the other unit)

Somewhere past the first connector (the one behind the headlight) I have a dead short to ground, as in both the hot and gruond wires are one and the same. However that wire (in this case a yellow one) goes off towards the main harness..... ah where does it go?

Anybody have a wire dirgram??

Aarrgg, this is so frustrating, only a little over 800 Kilometes on the new bike, so far a brake switch, starter motor (still waiting on that to be replaced) and now a short somewhere. Add to that no wiring dirgram to work from. My hope is that at some point before I've replaced all the parts on the bike it will start to actualy go severl hundred miles without failing, but right now I would not make a good sales person for Ural