Should I Upgrade from 2006 Tourist to 2014+ EFI Model?

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Re: Should I Upgrade from 2006 Tourist to 2014+ EFI Model?

Postby wooden nickel » Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:26 pm

Some of the early 14s had a poor seal at the plastic/metal interface for the ECUs. I applied RTV over the seam.
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Re: Should I Upgrade from 2006 Tourist to 2014+ EFI Model?

Postby Gunfighter » Tue Apr 24, 2018 8:50 pm

The throttle bodies do not actually "contain" the ECU's. The ECU's are the black, flat, plastic thingies that are attached to the throttle bodies. Each ECU has a large electrical connector plugged onto it. It appears that the ECU's are held to the throttle body by plastic clips. THEY ARE NOT. They are permanently attached, and attempting to separate them will destroy them, as I understand it.
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Re: Should I Upgrade from 2006 Tourist to 2014+ EFI Model?

Postby eastbloc » Wed Apr 25, 2018 8:47 am

I have no regrets about purchasing my '14 -- slightly used and highly depreciated.

For what the upgrade would get you versus the cost, I'd say it's not worth it if you already have a good running '06. Some of the main new features have trade-offs as well as benefits. Fuel injection doesn't require as much fiddling but carries complexity (pressurized fuel system, difficulty of tuning, possibility of unresolvable failure on the road). While disc brakes in the rear may offer better modulation and less fade, I have no difficulty locking up the rear brakes on my 650 so the discs don't actually get you any more stopping power and -- yes -- they are more complex and require more maintenance than the drums.

The powdercoat on my '14 is appalling. I put some masking tape on for a project and when I peeled it off, the powdercoat came with it. Not an issue with post-2015, but the paint on my '00 is looking way better than the powdercoat on the '14. I'd be pi$$ed if I shelled out $20k for it and had that happen.
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Re: Should I Upgrade from 2006 Tourist to 2014+ EFI Model?

Postby stagewex » Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:23 am

I'd say something is wrong with your '06 if it's running like that. At least something you can probably take care of yourself. Such a simple machine.

Spend more time reading all the posts on '14 and newer rigs, both problems and problems solved. I do like the new Urals but really, nothing offered is pulling at my wallet as in "wow, gotta have that".

These things whether you slap EFI on a primitive engine, jury-rig discs all around or offer some pretty paint options are still not going to be turn-the-key-and-go motorcycles. YOU still have to make it that way.
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Re: Should I Upgrade from 2006 Tourist to 2014+ EFI Model?

Postby Donbmw » Wed Apr 25, 2018 12:50 pm

After trying to own multiple carb bikes at one time I wanted fuel injection for my next bike. Not knowing Urals at the time I bought new. If to buy another would like used now.
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Re: Should I Upgrade from 2006 Tourist to 2014+ EFI Model?

Postby Mr Wazzock » Thu Apr 26, 2018 2:56 pm

Gunfighter wrote:The throttle bodies do not actually "contain" the ECU's. The ECU's are the black, flat, plastic thingies that are attached to the throttle bodies.

Semantics! You know what I mean! LOL :lol:


Each ECU has a large electrical connector plugged onto it. It appears that the ECU's are held to the throttle body by plastic clips. THEY ARE NOT. They are permanently attached, and attempting to separate them will destroy them, as I understand it.

Resin filled I think, the clips are merely an aid to assembly.
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Re: Should I Upgrade from 2006 Tourist to 2014+ EFI Model?

Postby BigJames » Fri Apr 27, 2018 3:37 pm

I couldn't decide either, so kept both...we'll see which one I keep and which one is trade in bait...
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