Saddlebag options for Urals?

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Saddlebag options for Urals?

Postby mtrdrms » Fri Sep 08, 2017 1:26 pm

Hey everyone. So I did some searching and havent found what I'm looking for here so has anyone mounted hard saddlebags on a Ural? My old rig was a BMW and I had pelican cases on it. I've seen some cool looking leather-type bags out there but I'd like some more secure, weather proof luggage capacity. If you have bags of any kind or if you have suggestions, please post up pics or let me know what you think. Thanks.
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Re: Saddlebag options for Urals?

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Re: Saddlebag options for Urals?

Postby reduc » Mon Sep 11, 2017 4:43 pm

Don't search for "saddlebags". Search for "panniers". Lots of people have done this.
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Re: Saddlebag options for Urals?

Postby Tomcatfixer » Mon Sep 11, 2017 6:37 pm

...and where do you intend to mount said panniers? On the bike...

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...or on the hack?

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With the Ural, you have considerably more options than a two-wheeler.
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Re: Saddlebag options for Urals?

Postby mtrdrms » Mon Sep 11, 2017 8:45 pm

The "pannier" tip helped a lot. Many thanks. I intend to mount the bags on the bike...exactly like yours! Is that a kit you purchased?
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Re: Saddlebag options for Urals?

Postby Tomcatfixer » Tue Sep 12, 2017 5:10 am

Is that a kit you purchased?

Yes, they're a Ural-made accessory called "Baraholka boxes". While they look nice and are easy to quickly attach and detach, they're quite smallish and really only good for storing sundry items. I keep an Individual First Aid Kit, Baja No-Pinch Tire Tool, and can koozie in the left one, and all of my cargo straps and microfiber towels in the right one.

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https://uralportland.com/accessories/ur ... holka-box/

Stepping up in size is the Ural-made "ammo can". It has it's own unique look.

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http://racewayural.com/product/1205/

Next up the cargo storage "food chain" are the large toolboxes, like I have mounted to my sidecar's nose. These are no longer manufactured by Ural, so you have to source them from an online retailer like ebay or Oldtimer Garage.

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https://m.ebay.com/itm/Side-metal-box-w ... Ciid%253A7

Comparing the three, the toolboxes have, by far, the most storage capacity. Plus, they don't have a necked-down opening, which makes it easier to insert and remove items.

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Other cargo management options include using actual military ammo cans...

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...or going with a ADV-style cargo system from an aftermarket company, like Touratech, Jesse, Givi, SW-Motech, etc.

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So, really, the questions are: how much cargo capacity do you want, where do you want to mount the boxes/bags (I didn't even get into leather or soft bags), and is there a particular "look" for which you are trying to achieve?
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Re: Saddlebag options for Urals?

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Re: Saddlebag options for Urals?

Postby mtrdrms » Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:29 am

Excellent information Chad. Thank you. In doing some day trips with a passenger and having some multi day rides planned, I see the need arising for a bit more cargo capacity. I like the baraholka boxes. Thats a lot of money for not a lot of capacity but they look the part. Do you like them? I may mount an ammo can under the chair - that's clever. I want to put a gas can on the front, outside of the sidecar but maybe another ammo can on the inboard side? Many decisions but your pictures have helped a great deal. I'm going to the rally at UralNE next weekend so I should get some good info there from other inmates.
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Re: Saddlebag options for Urals?

Postby Tomcatfixer » Tue Sep 12, 2017 10:29 am

Thats a lot of money for not a lot of capacity but they look the part. Do you like them?

Your assessment is correct, Andy: while the Baraholka boxes look good and are actually well made, they're not a particularly good value. Of course, valve varies by the individual and their disposable income. :wink:

Had I to do over again, I would likely pursue another option, such as a large leather bag, but since I already have them, they work fine for holding an assortment of small items.

I want to put a gas can on the front, outside of the sidecar

Obviously, you're free to do as you please with your rig, but I'm of the opinion that mounting a fuel cannister in that location is the most "dangerous" position. I feel that placing a can of flammable liquid in the most likely position to be crushed or punctured in an accident is not the most wise decision.

I'm interested to see which direction you head to meet your cargo management needs. Be sure to post pictures on here, 'cause we eat that stuff up!
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Re: Saddlebag options for Urals?

Postby rivers » Tue Sep 12, 2017 11:31 am

If you're looking for out of the box bolt-ons there aren't many Ural specific hard bags avail. Lotsa alum pannier builders out there but they won't have Ural specific mounts so you're on your own for making mounts. Happy Trails in ID has reasonable priced and good quality various size alum boxes you can make work but no Ural mounts. I've run HT's on 2 wheelers and they held up and worked well. If you're considering US mil surplus ammo cans, check into mil surplus Mermite cans. They were for transporting hot meals and pretty light weight. A nice overall size and with the inner liner and insulation removed, a decent capacity. Yup ya gotta build your own mounts/hangers. :( For just quick bolt-ons the baraholka's are probably your easiest option but at a price. Pelican Cases make tough plastic cases adaptable for pannier, cargo box use but expensive new.
I'm a soft bag fan myself for reasons I won't get into on a hard pannier thread.
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Re: Saddlebag options for Urals?

Postby Mr Wazzock » Tue Sep 12, 2017 7:26 pm

"Microfiber towels" :o :?:
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Re: Saddlebag options for Urals?

Postby Tomcatfixer » Tue Sep 12, 2017 7:46 pm

"Microfiber towels" :o :?:

Wait, have you not yet discovered the miracle of modern science that is the microfiber towel, Mike?! Oh, man! These little gems can hold SO much water and are easy to wring out in preparation for receiving even MORE water! Before I hop on the bike for my morning commute, the first thing I do is wipe the condensation from the seat, mirrors, and gauges with a microfiber towel. Do yourself a favor: pick up a pack of 'em. You won't regret it.
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Re: Saddlebag options for Urals?

Postby ArgonV » Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:07 pm

I really like these on eBay, not the biggest tho:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/leather-bag-sad ... xy&vxp=mtr
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Re: Saddlebag options for Urals?

Postby Stryker » Wed Sep 13, 2017 5:35 pm

mtrdrms wrote:Excellent information Chad. Thank you. In doing some day trips with a passenger and having some multi day rides planned, I see the need arising for a bit more cargo capacity. I like the baraholka boxes. Thats a lot of money for not a lot of capacity but they look the part. Do you like them? I may mount an ammo can under the chair - that's clever. I want to put a gas can on the front, outside of the sidecar but maybe another ammo can on the inboard side? Many decisions but your pictures have helped a great deal. I'm going to the rally at UralNE next weekend so I should get some good info there from other inmates.

Hi Andy, I am thinking about the UralNE rally as well. What time are you leaving and what is your planned route?
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Re: Saddlebag options for Urals?

Postby mtrdrms » Wed Sep 13, 2017 9:18 pm

Cool! We are actually headed up Friday around noon and staying overnight near boxborough Friday night. Its about 150 miles away and the 650 doesn't like deadlines if you know what I mean.
We are taking a route along mass/ct line and then going north around Woodstock area on the way out and the way back will more direct under the quabbin to north hampton and south. We live in Colebrook.
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